[Vision2020] Coulter's Dream - from CNN

Fri Oct 12 18:38:51 PDT 2007

This is making the rounds and this seems like a good spot to let you all 
in on the POV.

Subject: Very Realistic Point of View

The following was written by Ben Stein and recited by him on CBS Sunday 
Morning Commentary. 

My confession: 

I am a Jew, and every single one of my ancestors was Jewish. ï¿½ And it 
does not bother me even a little bit when people call those beautiful lit 
up, bejeweled trees Christmas trees. I don't feel threatened. I don't feel 
discriminated against. That's what they are: ï¿½ Christmas trees.

It doesn't bother me a bit when people say, "Merry Christmas" to me. I 
don't think they are slighting me or getting ready to put me in a ghetto. 
In fact, I kind of like it. It shows that we are all brothers and sisters 
celebrating this happy time of year. It doesn't bother me at all that 
there is a manger scene on display at a key intersection near my beach 
house in Malibu. If people want a crche, it's just as fine with me as is 
the Menorah a few hundred yards away .

I don't like getting pushed around for being a Jew, and I don't think 
Christians like getting pushed around for being Christians. I think people 
who believe in God are sick and tired of getting pushed around, period. I 
have no idea where the concept came from that America is an explicitly 
atheist country. I can't find it in the Constitution and I don't like it 
being shoved down my throat. 

Or maybe I can put it another way: where did the idea come from that we 
should worship Nick and Jessica and we aren't allowed to worship God as we 
understand Him? ï¿½ I guess that's a sign that I'm getting old, too. ï¿½ 
But there are a lot of us who are wondering where Nick and Jessica came 
from and where the America we knew went to. 

In light of the many jokes we send to one another for a laugh, this is a 
little different: This is not intended to be a joke; it's not funny, it's 
intended to get you thinking. 

Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane Clayson 
asked her "How could God let something like this happen?" (regarding 
Katrina) ï¿½ Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful 
response.
She said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but 
for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of 
our government and to get out of our lives. ï¿½ And being the gentleman He 
is, I believe He has calmly backed out. How can we expect God to give us 
His blessing and His protection if we demand He leave us alone?" 

In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc. I 
think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered, her body 
found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our schools, and we 
said OK. 
Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school. The Bible says 
thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor as 
yourself. And we said OK. 

Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when they 
misbehave because their little personalities would be warped and we might 
damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed suicide). We said an 
expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK. 

Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they 
don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill 
strangers, their classmates, and themselves. 

Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out. 
I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW." 

Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the 
world's going to hell. ï¿½ Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, 
but question what the Bible says. ï¿½Funny how you can send 'jokes' 
through e-mail and they spread like wildfire but when you start sending 
messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about sharing. ï¿½ Funny 
how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely through 
cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and 
workplace. 

Are you laughing? 

Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it to many on 
your address list because you're not sure what they believe, or what they 
will think of you for sending it. 

Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us than 
what God thinks of us. 

Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it... no 
one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process, don't sit 
back and complain about what bad shape the world is in. ï¿½ My Best 
Regards. 
Honestly and respectfully, 

Ben Stein

ï¿½

> All-
> 
> Ann Coulter's books sell big time... She's laughing all the way to the
> bank.  Carl Westberg is right on the money (no pun intended) about 
Coulter
> being "pure show business."  The more outrageous her comments, the more
> publicity.  It's so obvious she's deliberately aiming to upset people 
with
> extreme political incorrectness.
> 
> What is disturbing is that many people really believe what she advocates.
> Millions do believe that the US would be better off if we were all
> Christians.  Correct?  What is more shocking than Coulter's comments, is
> that she is supported by a sizable fan base.  She definitely speaks to a
> large percentage of the US public that admires her frank expression of
view> s
> that they sympathize with.
> 
> She is merely a symptom of a much broader problem in US society.
> 
> Ted Moffett
> 
> On 10/12/07, keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com > wrote:
> >
> > This is the same Ann Coulter who dated Joseph Guccione, publisher of 
that
> > paragon of Christian virtue, Penthouse magazine.  Miz Coulter is a
nutcas> e,
> > and I think the orderlies need to find stronger straps.
> >
> > keely
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  ------------------------------
> > From: privatejf32 at hotmail.com
> > To: joekc at adelphia.net; vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:33:59 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Coulter's Dream - from CNN
> >
> > Ann Coulter is totally nuts!  "Perfected"?  "Fast Track"?  What is
> > that!!!!???  Who buys this stuff?
> >
> > J :]
> >
> >
> > > Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 06:46:38 -0700
> > > From: joekc at adelphia.net
> > > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > Subject: [Vision2020] Coulter's Dream - from CNN
> > >
> > > Conservative commentator and best-selling author Ann Coulter may find
> > herself in the midst of a controversy for comments Monday suggesting
Amer> ica
> > would be better if everyone was Christian.
> > >
> > > Asked by CNBC host Donny Deutsch what the U.S. looks like in her
dreams> ,
> > Coulter said it would look like the Republican National Convention in
200> 4
> > >
> > > "People were happy," she said, according to a transcript provided to
CN> N
> > by CNBC. "They're Christian. They're tolerant. They defend America."
> > >
> > > When Deutsch responded, "It would be better if we were all 
Christian?"
> > Coulter said "Yeah."
> > >
> > > Deutsch, himself Jewish, continued to press Coulter on her remarks,
> > asking, "We should just throw Judaism away and we should all be
Christian> s
> > then?"
> > >
> > > "Yeah," Coulter responded, adding "Well, it's a lot easier. It's kind
o> f
> > a fast track."
> > >
> > > "You can't possibly believe that," Deutsch responded. "You can't
> > possibly. You're too educated."
> > >
> > > "Do you know what Christianity is?" Coulter replied. "See, we believe
> > your religion, but you have to obey. We have the fast track program."
> > >
> > > Later in the interview Deutsch asked Coulter if she doesn't want any
> > Jews in the world, Coulter responded, "No, we think — we just want
Jews>  to
> > be perfected, as they say."
> > >
> > > "Wow, you didn't really say that, did you," Deutsch said.
> > >
> > >
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