[Vision2020] Judge rules March schoo levy null and void

Mon Nov 26 20:14:27 PST 2007

Sunil,

  I am not going to prove a negative. Why don't you provide me with evidence that students that graduate from other school districts cannot land jobs at even Wal-Mart that offers medical insurance?

  I don't think it is the health insurance that is the problem, I think it is the pay per hour that is the problems. A High School graduate with no other training or experience beyond the few years in the service industry isn't in a position to get a job for more than $6-7 an hour. A person with a vocational education can get a job for $9 to $20 an hour starting depending on the skill. What should we be focusing on, the $6-7 an hour education, or the $9-20 an hour?

  The MSD wants to spend all the money on just the college kids, which most of which will end up making more than $7 an hour. So it is only fair that we also give students to succeed even if they don't go to college. 

  And I don't care what other school districts are doing, I am not paying for them. 

  Best,

  Donovan

  Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:
      .hmmessage P  {  margin:0px;  padding:0px  }  body.hmmessage  {  FONT-SIZE: 10pt;  FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma  }    Donovan,

My question was about school districts, not the city council.  How many school districts can say they are equipping their students to get jobs with health insurance upon graduation?  Given that this is a national problem, I doubt many can say so, but if you have contrary information, I'd love to see it.

Sunil

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  Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 23:17:08 -0800
From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Judge rules March schoo levy null and void
To: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com; ophite at gmail.com
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com

  Sunil,

  Lots of schools equip students with vocational training skills that want them. Considering how much MSD soaks the public they should be one of those many. Even Wal-Mart offers health insurance. I know some people that love their insurance with Wal-Mart after they have been there a few years. Unfortunately, our city voted down a Wal-Mart Supercenter that would have provided nearly 100 new entry level jobs that offer affordable health insurance. If Moscow only wants "High Paying Quality Jobs" it needs to provide our students with an equal training program to fill those jobs. 

  Best,

  Donovan

Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:
      .ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P  {padding:0px;}  .ExternalClass EC_body.hmmessage  {font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;}    Donovan,

How many school districts in this country are equipping students to get jobs with health insurance upon graduation?  Aren't you insisting on an impossible standard for any school district?

Sunil

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  Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:50:22 -0800
From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
To: ophite at gmail.com
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Judge rules March schoo levy null and void

  Andreas,

  I think your response to every problem being someone should run for office is ineffective and demonstrations your lack of understanding of our political system and basic problem solving skills. 

  By your reasoning, if I want to fight a parking ticket, I should join the parking committee? If I want to add an education program I should run for the education board? I should run for Highway Commissioner if I want a pothole filled in at the end of the road? I should run for Dog Catcher if I don't want rabid dogs running around town? I should run for sheriff if I want the law enforced too right? And if I want all those things changed, I should just keep running for offices while ignoring all my other obligations? 

  Nope, sorry Andreas. Based on this logic, you shouldn't be complaining about US policy on torture of foreigners because you aren't running for President. 

  Fortunately, the designers of the American Constitution gave us more than the option of running for a political office with limited and divided powers to effectuate change in our society. That is what creates compromise between two groups of people. And it prevents the tyranny of the majority. 

  The most powerful position in Moscow is the Mayor, and even she has a great deal of complication is accomplishing her tasks, so your "Solution for all Problems" of running and holding office proved as not a real solution. 

  The greatest way to effect change as an individual is enact your constitutional rights. Which is what Weitz is doing. The most effective way to resist change is promote status quo and majority rule, which is what MSD is doing. Further, your premise dictates that those without meeting the qualifications for an office, age, education,  disability etc, are not granted any rights, which I wholeheartedly disagree!

  Best,

  Donovan

Andreas Schou <ophite at gmail.com> wrote:
  On Nov 25, 2007 1:05 AM, Donovan Arnold wrote:
> Paul,
>
> I guess we are just in disagreement on what taxpayer funds should be used to
> accomplish. I believe that the school district should teach children all
> that they need to be successful in life upon graduation. A student should be
> employable upon graduation and be able to obtain a job to pay rent,
> groceries, and meet all their needs. They should be forced to bunk with 5
> other teens their age, or live with mom and dad, and live in fear they won't
> get hurt because they cannot afford health insurance. Or have to wait until
> they in their 40s to afford to have a child.
>

Dovovan --

Again: if you want to decide how taxpayer funds are used, run for
office. Making coercive threats, then running to the courts, is not
the appropriate mechanism.

-- ACS

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