[Vision2020] illegal levy ads

Mon Nov 12 16:11:39 PST 2007

Hi Tom,

In part, you wrote:

"To be fair, I don't know who is behind this. Probably a rogue individual,
because a group wouldn't be so stupid as to risk reputation by willfully
breaking the law."

That would be assuming the individual or group behind the illegal activity
*cares* about reputation, which I doubt they do.  You know the kind:  stoop
to any level to do what you want because secular laws apply to others, not
them.

JMHO,

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From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Ivie
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 4:00 PM
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] illegal levy ads

To be fair, I don't know who is behind this. Probably a rogue individual,
because a group wouldn't be so stupid as to risk reputation by willfully
breaking the law. I would think that something like this would be of
interest to the Secretary of State, not the City Attorney.

J Ford <privatejf32 at hotmail.com> wrote:

WOW!  Thank you for this....great item of interest.

Wonder if the City Attorney will finally get off his rear end or at least
remove his head long enough and start to come down on Dougie and his bunch
for their "we don't have no stinkin' political agenda" stand and put an end
to this kind of illegal wrangling.  Any chance of that happening, Randy?

Didn't think so.

J :]

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Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:31:58 -0800
From: the_ivies3 at yahoo.com
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: [Vision2020] illegal levy ads

Did someone or group break the law in doing these "political" ads against
the levy?  While I support your and everyone's right to "free speech", this
speech was paid for and is subject to reporting laws. I think the Weitz ad
in the paper is fine, he paid for it and the ad says so.  The ads purchased
by individuals in favor of the levy or ok also because they say who
purchased them.  I don't think an ad paid for by a deceased person, which is
in effect what you are saying when you say "paid for by moscowlevy.com" (a
website created by and paid for by Jack Wenders -deceased for a year now).
I'm pretty sure the radio ads cost more than $100. These types of laws were
created in part to deter this kind of abuse -so why should I trust anything
the website says if they can't even come out and tell me who they are? Are
they ashamed? Fear persecution?  I just don't get it.  I don't care who you
are.  It would help me rationalize any validity I might give the source
though. As it is, the anonymity causes me to pause at the validity.

What is an Independent Expenditure?
"Independent expenditure" means any expenditure by a person for a
communication expressly
advocating the election, passage or defeat of a clearly identified candidate
or measure that is not
made with the cooperation or with the prior consent of, or in consultation
with, or at the consent of, or
in consultation with, or at the request of a suggestion of, a candidate or
any agent or authorized
committee of the candidate or political committee supporting or opposing a
measure. As used in this
subsection, "expressly advocating" means any communication containing a
message advocating
election, passage or defeat including, but not limited to, the name of the
candidate or measure, or
expression such as "vote for," "elect," "support," "cast your ballot for,"
"vote against," "defeat" or "reject".
(Section 67-6602(g), I.C.) 

Form
C-4
Statement of Independent Expenditures 

Who Files It
Each person not filing campaign disclosure reports with the Secretary of
State who makes independent expenditures in an aggregate amount exceeding
$100 in support of or in opposition to any 1 candidate, political committee
or measure, shall file a statement of the expenditure with the secretary of
state. 

What It Contains
The name and address of any person to whom an expenditure in excess of $50
has been made by any such person in support of or in opposition to any such
candidate or issue during the reporting period, together with the amount,
date and purpose of each such expenditure; and (b) the total sum of all
expenditures made in support of or in opposition to any such candidate or
measure. 

When It's Due
Not less than 7 days prior to the primary and general election and 30 days
after the primary and general election.

Tom & Liz Ivie 

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