[Vision2020] Grandaddy Gary on How to Put the Fun Back in Fundamentalism

[Paul Rumelhart]

Christians, the world's only persecuted majority.

Don't you think tyrants the world over thought they were doing good for 
their people?  That only they knew how everything should be run?  That 
they had a mandate, either from God or from their own sense of 
superiority, to do what they did?

It's the same old crap, just different people.

And I will have the right to complain if a bunch of short-sighted 
nutjobs throw away the rights that made this country as great as it is 
for their own self-serving reasons.  Even if they dot the i's and cross 
the t's.

Paul

Now, if all you wanted to do was communicate your religion to me and let 
me make the choice, I would have no problem with that.  It's trying to 
change us into a Christian State that I'm objecting to here.

Christopher Witmer wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Rumelhart
> If someone were trying to pass a 
> law that Christians could not hold office, I would be there backing you 
> up. . . . [snip] . . . Get off the power trip. It doesn't go anywhere
> interesting. You just 
> want to replace one set of tyrants with another someday down the road. 
> You just happen to be a member of the new up-and-coming tyranny, so you 
> can't see it's the same thing just with different uniforms.
> -- Paul
>
> Paul, the active oppression of Christians is happening all over the place,
> and not just in Saudi Arabia. Europe is rife with overtly anti-Christian
> legislation coming down the pike at every turn, from Christian homeschoolers
> being fined and having their children taken away from them to pastors being
> put on trial, fined and even sent to prison for maintaining traditional
> biblical positions on homosexuality, the legitimate roles of women as
> Christian ministers, and the rights of the unborn. Canada is not far behind,
> and Australia too. The only reason the Christian ox is not being gored to a
> comparable degree in the USA is because of the vigilance and activism of
> American Christians who know that the best defense is a good offense -- the
> offense of the gospel. We commonly hear that Christians are welcome to
> believe and practice their faith in private, but to keep it out of the
> public sphere. The only problem with that is, in order to be faithful to
> what the Bible commands the Christian, the Christian faith must be practiced
> both in private and in public, because Jesus' lordship extends to
> everything. Conflict and confrontation between Christians and non-Christians
> are inevitable. You say I want to replace one set of tyrants with another. I
> say that's a very jaundiced way of looking at it. I'm looking for a total
> victory for Jesus, with the final score of Church Triumphant
> 10,000,000,000,000 vs. Satan's minions 0. I believe that's going to come
> about primarily through the power of God's Spirit converting men through the
> gospel, and incidentally that transformation can be expected to have
> implications in the political sphere as well, as Christian voters elect
> Christian legislators who enact Christian legislation following their
> Christian consciences and perhaps amend the Constitution to bring it into
> greater conformity with the Bible. Procedurally a person in your position
> has absolutely ZERO basis for complaining about that if it happens (after
> all, what I just described above is a scenario in which Christians play the
> American "game" strictly by the rules), and I have ZERO reason to feel the
> least bit ashamed for desiring such a state of affairs to come to pass.
>
> -- Chris
>
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