[Vision2020] Spam from the Future

[Ted Moffett]

All-

My Hotmail e-mail address has beenexposed longer for more Internet use than
any of my e-mail accounts, yet the spam is limited.  Microsoft may be evil,
but Hotmail appears to have good spam filters.  AOL e-mail also has limited
spam, as far as I have experienced, as does Google's Gmail, but Yahoo's
e-mail has had far and away the most spam.  I let the spam filter and
automatic deletion of the spam folder handle it.  A few spam e-mails slip
into the inbox, but it's no big deal.  However, Paul's data about the costs
of spam to Internet business or in the work place implies these costs are
passed on to consumers.  Paul mentions the Russian mafia complying with the
"Can Spam Act."  KGB Inc?

http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=4203

*"Kasparov makes a compelling case for the Bush Administration's hypocrisy
in the world, and that Putin has the puppet Bush dancing to his tune. A
dance meant to keep the world in turmoil so that KGB Inc. can benefit from
high oil prices." *
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But comparing with USPS snail junk mail, which may be paid for by the
sender, who may be easier to identify, than with junk e-mail, deception and
fraud is still a problem, for the gullible.  Also, wasted resources, time
and energy.  Look at the trash cans at the post office (I wonder how much
money the post office makes off junk mail after subtracting the costs of
disposal?), the at home trash from junk mail, or even if recycling, the
time, effort, and energy to process.  There are disposal impacts/costs that
the senders of junk mail do not pay for.  How many lbs. of trash junk mail
does Latah Sanitation process?

You can't ignore snail junk mail, like e-mail spam folders, which are
automatically deleted... The snail junk mail piles up demanding attention...

One pet peeve is opening my PO Box, having to sort the "real" mail from the
junk mail, which I must then either throw away or recycle, wasting time,
resources or energy.

There is a partial solution via registering on a "Do Not Mail List," but I
wonder, if you register, will this increase or decrease your snail junk
mail?

*The DirectMail.com National Do Not Mail List *

https://www.directmail.com/directory/mail_preference/

Ted Moffett



On 11/4/07, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I hope it doesn't jinx you, because at least one person in this world
> should be free of spam.
>
> It probably means that Google does a good job of filtering spam, or that
> you haven't used your address much, or both.  Just posting here to the
> Viz will make it visible on the web.  Google has the resources to filter
> spam well, since I'm sure they can leverage some of their search engine
> technology towards that end.  Maybe next time I'll go with them.
>
> I'm on yahoo, and I get maybe 20 a day, maybe half of which my filter
> catches.  When I was on another system, I got maybe one hundred a day.
> Since then I've gone to an approach of switching my email address every
> few years, when it gets too bad.
>
> Paul
>
> Janesta wrote:
> > This will probably jinx me! *chuckle* I seldom get spam at gmail.
> > Perhaps a few times a week at most. When I had yahoo, my box was full.
> > Does that make a difference?
> >
> > Janesta
> >
> >
> > On 11/4/07, *Paul Rumelhart* <godshatter at yahoo.com
> > <mailto:godshatter at yahoo.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     A quick googling of my own revealed that spam costs US businesses
> over
> >     $10 billion a year annually, and another $500 million a year for
> >     ISPs.
> >     Another study of Fortune 500 companies places the cost per
> >     employee per
> >     year at $1,934.
> >
> >     It's still a problem, with or without the Can Spam Act.  All
> >     indications
> >     are that it's gotten much worse since 2003.  I saw some estimates
> >     that
> >     the percentage of spam email rose in that time period from about
> >     70% to
> >     well over 90% of all email.
> >
> >     Let me know how well it works for you.
> >
> >     I'm skeptical that the Russian mafia will abide by it, but I may
> >     be wrong.
> >
> >     Paul
> >
> >     Tom Hansen wrote:
> >     > Golly, gee -
> >     >
> >     > A quick (between coffee sips) google of the Federal Trade
> >     Commission found
> >     > the "Can SPAM Act of 2003" complete with links to report
> violators.
> >     >
> >     > http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/buspubs/canspam.shtm
> >     >
> >     > Seeya round town, Moscow.
> >     >
> >     > Tom Hansen
> >     > Moscow, Idaho
> >     >
> >     > "I'll just speak for our church, in Christ Church.  If I found
> >     out that a
> >     > member of our church or a church officer was lying to
> >     non-believers in the
> >     > community, as a way to get by or protect themself or protect his
> >     reputation,
> >     > yes, he'd be disciplined."
> >     >
> >     > - Doug Wilson (January 31, 2007)
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
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