[Vision2020] The BLog and More Political Contributions

[Andreas Schou]

Gary --

Holding people accountable for what they believe is not 'bigotry.'
Failing to grant special exceptions for people who whine loudly is not
'discrimination.'

-- ACS

On 11/2/07, g. crabtree <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:
> Mr. Glasebook has a perfectly valid opinion when it comes to citizen Ament
> and to a lesser extant, Ms. Pall as I've said in a previous post. I think
> that he is jumping the gun with respect to Lamar. There can absolutely no
> question that Ament holds Mr. Glasebrook's church and all related things in
> contempt and Ms. Pall has voted right along with him. If your argument is
> that the opinion is wrong because he only has got it 2/3 right I at least
> see your point. If your beef is that none of the three are bigoted toward CC
> et. al. I would love to hear you make the case considering  the evidence to
> the contrary.
>
> g
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sunil Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
> To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 1:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The BLog and More Political Contributions
>
>
> > Gary,
> >
> > I think the distinction escapes you because, well, I think it escaped you
> > again below.  You wrote, 'I was merely calling into question the need to
> > condemn a man (or his sign?) for making his opinion known.'
> >
> > I don't think people are condemning him making his opinion known.  Maybe I
> > should just speak for myself here, so I'll say I'm certainly not
> > condemning
> > him for that.  I don't condemn anyone for that. [I should say I do yell at
> > or scold my clients when they make public statements that get used as
> > EVIDENCE, but that's a different matter.]
> >
> > It's the actual opinion that I'm condemning.  Not the act of saying it,
> > but
> > the content.  The right to free speech should be protected, but content is
> > fair game.
> >
> > Sunil
> >
> >
> >>From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>
> >>To: "Sunil Ramalingam"
> >><sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>,<vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The BLog and More Political Contributions
> >>Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 11:28:49 -0700
> >>
> >>And what makes you think that the distinction escapes me? I was merely
> >>calling into question the need to condemn a man (or his sign?) for making
> >>his opinion known. I was also a little unclear as to why it might be
> >>mandatory  for a candidate to fall in line and express his opinion on
> >>another mans opinion, as I expressed in my opinion of Ms. Hovey's opinion
> >>of Mr. Carscallen's opinion of Mr. Glasebrook's opinion. See what this
> >>leads to? Chaos!
> >>
> >>g
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Sunil Ramalingam" <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
> >>To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >>Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 10:32 PM
> >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The BLog and More Political Contributions
> >>
> >>
> >> > Gary,
> >> >
> >> > While I've never seen you attack anyone's right to expression, you've
> >>spent
> >> > plenty of time criticizing the content of those with whom you disagree.
> >> > Good for you.
> >> >
> >> > It's no different with Glasebrook's sign.  I would never try to stop
> >> > him
> >> > from creating or displaying his sign, but I certainly think he's wrong
> >>and
> >> > it was ridiculous.  That's not the same as trying to ban him or
> >> > restrain
> >>his
> >> > speech.
> >> >
> >> > I'm surprised that suddenly the distinction eludes you.
> >> >
> >> > Sunil
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>
> >> >>To: "Sue Hovey" <suehovey at moscow.com>,        "Donovan Arnold"
> >> >><donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>,        "Tom Ivie"
> >><the_ivies3 at yahoo.com>,
> >> >>      "Moscow Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>,        "Dan
> >>Carscallen"
> >> >><areaman at moscow.com>, <wdkrauss at clearwire.net>,
> >> >><wmsteed at aol.com>
> >> >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The BLog and More Political Contributions
> >> >>Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 18:45:08 -0700
> >> >>
> >> >>Ms. Hovey,
> >> >>
> >> >>Regarding Dan Carscallen's comment regarding Mr. Glasebrooks sign.
> >>Wouldn't
> >> >>an outright condemnation be little different than taking the man to
> >> >>task
> >> >>for exercising his right to express his opinion in public? Whether you
> >> >>agree or not there is no question but what Mr. Glasebrook truly
> >> >>believes
> >> >>that the candidates in question are bigoted toward his church. I would
> >> >>think that reasonable people could disagree without having to demand
> >>they
> >> >>condemn him. I don't remember any call for condemnation for letter
> >>writer's
> >> >>who went to the fanatical extreme of expressing the opinion that Dr.
> >>Weitz
> >> >>hates kids. But I suppose that was a different, more intimate ox being
> >> >>gored in that instance.
> >> >>
> >> >>One thing I do know is that in a medical emergency I would be
> >> >>incredibly
> >> >>pleased to see Dan's face as he dropped everything to do his absolute
> >>level
> >> >>best to keep me among the living as, I suspect, would you. If we're
> >>willing
> >> >>to trust him that far how much more of a stretch is it to trust him
> >> >>with
> >>a
> >> >>council seat? I believe that he'll look for the compromise that would
> >>make
> >> >>both of us equally mad as well as evenly pleased and devote the same
> >> >>competence to deciding matters of city business that he does to his
> >>other
> >> >>vital activities. Please give him your consideration.
> >> >>
> >> >>g
> >> >
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