[Vision2020] Why 30 times more in the U.S.?

Kai Eiselein, editor editor at lataheagle.com
Mon May 21 17:24:03 PDT 2007


1: Lack of discipline and supervision by parents.
2: Lack of parents
3: Lack of discipline by schools.
4: Lack of being instilled with a sense of right and wrong. (You know, I'm 
OK, your OK. The space you are in is where you need to be right now.)
5: Too much TV
6: Not enough community service.
7: Drugs (Including alcohol)
8: Broken mental health system
9: Broken court system.
10: Non-enforcement of gun laws.
The list could go on and on.
Guns are not evil, they are inanimate objects only controlled by the user. I 
have never seen, nor heard of, a gun jumping up and killing someone.
There are far more deaths involving automobiles, yet no one screams out to 
ban them, even if they are used in crimes.
Cars are viewed as "safe" while guns are demonized by many, including law 
enforcement in big cities. Calling semi-automatics, automatics. Calling many 
of them "assault weapons". Hell nearly every large caliber rifle out there 
was, or was based on, a miltary "assault rifle".
The 30-30, 30-06, .308, .223, 6.5 X55, 7.62, all had miltary applications 
regardless of whether they were lever or bolt action or semi or fully 
automatic.
All were "assault weapons" in their time.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matt Decker" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>
To: <ophite at gmail.com>
Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Why 30 times more in the U.S.?


> A,
>
> Point being its not the gun but our culture. Our blood thirsty culture.
> Banning guns wont solve that.
>
> Matt
>
>
>>From: "Andreas Schou" <ophite at gmail.com>
>>To: "Matt Decker" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>
>>CC: nickgier at adelphia.net, vision2020 at moscow.com
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Why 30 times more in the U.S.?
>>Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 16:37:37 -0700
>>
>>On 5/21/07, Matt Decker <mattd2107 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>A,
>>>
>>>Lets see here. The swiss men are issued a pistol and an assualt rifle, 
>>>yet
>>>their homicide rate is minimal. HMMMMMM
>>
>>Sure. Those are government-issued weapons, you're not allowed to own
>>more than that, and if there's a gun homicide, the police just come
>>around and check everybody's government-issued clips. You're the guy
>>that's missing a bullet? You're the guy who's going up for murder.
>>
>>(And, frankly, our rate of total mass-murder apeshit fits is minimal
>>as well -- it's the *other* murders I'm concerned with.)
>>
>>-- ACS
>
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