[Vision2020] Our Troops

Nicholas Gier ngier at uidaho.edu
Thu Mar 22 22:28:02 PDT 2007 

Greetings:

I, too, have seen some of the pictures that Pat has just now discovered.
 I would  encourage Pat to listen to NPR.  They run at least one daily
interview with returning soldiers and their families, or non-returning
soldiers and their devatasted families, as the case may be.  The
interviews are always well done, sensitive, and poignant.

Nick Gier


----- Original Message -----
From: J Ford <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
Date: Thursday, March 22, 2007 8:47 am
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Our Troops
To: vision2020 at moscow.com

> I have said it before - if PAT does not recognize something as 
> being legit, 
> has not seen an item before on her MANY, MANY news sources that she 
> apparently trusts (i.e., Fox News, Bill O'Reilly, etc.) or has 
> personally 
> heard about it from her hand-picked sources - it simply has not 
> existed or 
> is questionable, at best.
> 
> Fact is, the pictures have been published before, have been seen by 
> multiple 
> thousands/millions and are frequent "must-sees" on other sites and 
> news 
> sites.
> 
> But then, Pat does not trust any news sites, so mayhap that is why 
> she has 
> not seen them before or as many times as she seems to need in order 
> to allow 
> them some form of legitimacy.
> 
> As a side note - what the bloody difference does it make anyway?  
> The pics 
> have been shared here and have been seen by a lot of V2020 folks - 
> enjoy, 
> relax, get over yourself, Pat.  It really is no biggy.
> 
> J  :]
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "Pat Kraut" <pkraut at moscow.com>
> >To: "vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Our Troops
> >Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 21:17:43 -0800
> >
> >What I am saying is that none of the pictures have been so 
> published that
> >they were recognizable by me or many others who have shared this 
> post. I 
> >got
> >it from a good friend with a long list of names and I have asked 
> those I 
> >saw
> >today if they had seen them anywhere else and to a person they 
> said no. So,
> >since we consider ourselves readers of wide sources we somehow 
> missed them.
> >Either they were printed in obscure places or they just weren't 
> used much 
> >at
> >all. If you saw them Great! but a good many others did not and I 
> bet they
> >weren't on CNN.
> >Our military are being shortchanged in the good publicity department.
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Sue Hovey" <suehovey at moscow.com>
> >To: "Pat Kraut" <pkraut at moscow.com>; "vision2020" 
> <vision2020 at moscow.com>>Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 6:48 PM
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Our Troops
> >
> >
> >Pat,
> >
> >If you really mean to imply I didn't tell the truth, you are 
> wrong.  But
> >perhaps you only meant that if you haven't witnessed something, it 
> isn't>true.
> >
> >Sue
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Pat Kraut" <pkraut at moscow.com>
> >To: "vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 1:51 PM
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Our Troops
> >
> >
> > > Sue has stated that she saw some of these somewhere but I 
> haven't and so 
> >I
> > > believe they didn't appear on any major cable anything.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "lfalen" <lfalen at turbonet.com>
> > > To: "Pat Kraut" <pkraut at moscow.com>; "vision2020" 
> ><vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 10:00 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Our Troops
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks Pat
> > >
> > > Roger
> > > -----Original message-----
> > > From: "Pat Kraut" pkraut at moscow.com
> > > Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 22:10:12 -0700
> > > To: "vision2020" vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > Subject: [Vision2020] Our Troops
> > >
> > >> They can win if we give them time and funds
> > >>                       Things you will never see on the New Media.
> > >>                     Proof of abuse by our Troops....things the 
> media> > missed...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>                           Armed American Troops Force Iraqi's 
> to Seesaw
> > > Until They Talk!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>                            Iraqi Child Bites GI In Self 
> Defense Af! ter
> > > Obvi ous Torture !
> > >>
> > >>                                                                
>     !
> > >>                           GI Falls Asleep On Duty While Using 
> Iraqi 
> >Child
> > > As Body Armor !
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>                           GI Overheard to say, " Talk or I'll 
> tickle 
> >you
> > > till you pee! "
> > >>                           More Evidence Of Failed US 
> Intelligence 
> >Policy.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>                           Soldier Attempts to Eat Iraqi Child !
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>                           Clear Evidence of Forced Labor by 
> Troops> >>
> > >>                           Iraqi's Grateful That American 
> Forces Did Not
> > > Open Fire During Soccer Game
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>                           Soldier Caught At "Tickle-Torture" 
> To Extract
> > > Intelligence !
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>                           GI Forces Iraqi ! Child To Hang By 
> Fingertips 
> >!
> > >>
> > >>                              sp;
> > >>                           No comment here.  There's nothing 
> funny about
> > > this one.
> > >>
> > >>                           May the good Lord bless every one of 
> our 
> >troops
> > > wherever they are!
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