[Vision2020] ...but they will not testify under oath inthematter

[Art Deco]

Wow Gary!  

One person prosecuted in the 25 year history of the law.  What an information coup!

Do you suppose that the hapless Sharon was the only one in 25 years that outed an agent?

If so, my offer about shares in the imaginary silver mine still stands.

W.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: g. crabtree 
To: Art Deco ; Vision 2020 
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 7:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] ...but they will not testify under oath inthematter


Looks like you're starting today off on the same losing note as you bailed on yesterday.

>From your kindred spirits at The Daily Kos, a source that you should be extremely comfortable with...

"There has been only one person convicted under the Intelligence Identities Protection Act: Sharon Scranage in 1985.  She confessed and got a 5-year sentence."

So much for your inference that prosecution's just can't happen under the act.

 Hope your day improves from here on out,
g
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Art Deco 
  To: Vision 2020 
  Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 7:07 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] ...but they will not testify under oath inthematter


  Gary writes:

  "If there was even the slightest evidence that Plame was a covert operative you can rest assured charges would have been brought. "


  Yeah, right.  Perhaps, you can name other cases where an agent was outed followed by a prosecution of the outer.

  W.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: g. crabtree 
  To: Tom Hansen ; 'Art Deco' ; 'Vision 2020' 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 8:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] ...but they will not testify under oath inthematter


  My goodness, hansen ! This changes everything. I guess this means that our gal Val is in reality April Dancer, The mysterious girl from U.N.C.L.E. Hot diggity micro dot.

  According to Fred Rustmann, a former CIA official in an article published in Time magazine on 031019:

  ." . . . . Rustmann describes Plame as an "exceptional officer" but says her ability to remain under cover was jeopardized by her marriage in 1998 to the higher-profile American diplomat."

  Golly, married to Joe 'stand back, I'm a diplomat' Wilson April, 98. Novack breaks story July, 03 no more life threatening undercover polishing assignments in the espionage hot spots of the US embassy's of Brussels or Athens for five years. Active covert operative, my ass. I hear that when they catch a NOC in Belgium they withhold your waffles till they fly you home, couch no less! If there was even the slightest evidence that Plame was a covert operative you can rest assured charges would have been brought. They weren't. Case closed. You don't really do any better at making this case than your mentor, Wayne did. Imagine my surprise.

  g
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Tom Hansen 
    To: 'g. crabtree' ; 'Art Deco' ; 'Vision 2020' 
    Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 6:46 PM
    Subject: RE: [Vision2020] ...but they will not testify under oath inthematter


    Your attention is invited to the attached PDF file titled "Correcting the Record on Valerie Plame" authored by Larry C. Johnson.

    This document was downloaded from the House of Representative website at:

     

    http://www.oversight.house.gov/Documents/20050722113326-59442.pdf

     

    Quoted below is a paragraph from the first page of this document.

     

    "Although Val started off with official cover, she later joined a select

    group of intelligence officers a few years later when she became a

    NOC, i.e. a Non-Official Cover officer. That meant she agreed to

    operate overseas without the protection of a diplomatic passport. She

    was using cover, which we now know because of the leak to Robert

    Novak, of the consulting firm Brewster-Jennings."

     

    Nope.  Certainly doesn't sound like janitorial work to me.

     

    Tom Hansen

    Moscow, Idaho

    "As more and more heathens 'choose' to not have children the number of Godly souls will increase. If the number of Christian births out number the number of Islamic births the battle will be over in 3 or 4 generations."

    - Doug "No-Clue" Farris (March 10, 2007) 


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    From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of g. crabtree
    Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 5:51 PM
    To: Art Deco; Vision 2020
    Subject: Re: [Vision2020] ...but they will not testify under oath inthematter

     

    Well Wayne, this is becoming embarrassing. Perhaps you should hang it up, take a little nap and try again another day.

     

    For starters why would I consider any thing from wikipedia to be the final word on anything? A site where the content can be altered by pretty much anyone with an opinion, a point of view, and some time on their hands (someone much like yourself) would hardly be the most definitive source for anyone's "reality" check.

     

    Also considering that you, yourself, choose this particular article, I think that it's extremely telling that nowhere in the conclusions of the afore mentioned piece did the eight democrats and seven republicans (Hagel & Snowe hardly count as republicans) find any indication of wrong doing by the current administration. It should go without saying that there is no mention of the actual topic we had been discussing, Valerie Plame.

     

    Now that we are actually back to the original topic at hand, allow me to reiterate. A janitor at the CIA is not a covert operative. A security guard at the CIA is not a covert operative. An analyst at the CIA is not a covert operative. After hearing Ms. Plame testify to congress, seeing the piece in Vanity Fair, watching her on CNN's Larry King, and listening to her idiot husband blowviate at length in various forums, it seems likely to me that what Ms. Plame really did at the agency was polish. Apples, brass, knobs, and her own reputation and sense of self-worth, and only one of those things did she do covertly.

     

      g===============



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