[Vision2020] Weird Dates? (was RE: Population)

Fri Mar 16 21:15:04 PDT 2007

Hi Pat,

It looks to me like you fixed it  :-)  Although, I'm sorry to hear your
laptop's encounter with water  :-(  On the bright side, at least your laptop
booted up after the water, even though it's making noises -- the fact that
it will boot at all sounds encouraging to me!

My 'puter has been giving me fits recently (it's literally begging me to do
a wipe & reinstall, but who has time for that?!), so I wasn't sure if it was
you, me, or some ghost in cyberspace.

Good luck with getting your laptop checked out, and thanks for un-confusing
my mind!

Saundra Lund
Moscow, ID

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nothing.
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-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Pat Kraut
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 8:31 PM
To: vision2020
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Weird Dates? (was RE: Population)

The problem may be that silly Pat dropped water in her lap top recently. I
just checked my date and time and it was very wrong so perhaps I have fixed
it, I hope. I'm going to have someone look at my lap top soon because it
makes loud noises as it is loading up. Please let me know if it isn't right.

	----- Original Message ----- 
	From: Saundra Lund <mailto:sslund at roadrunner.com>  
	To: vision2020 at moscow.com ; 'Pat Kraut' <mailto:pkraut at moscow.com>  
	Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 12:48 PM
	Subject: Weird Dates? (was RE: [Vision2020] Population)

	I'm curious if anyone else is having problems with Pat's emails?  I
keep missing her posts as there seems to be something very odd about the
dates in the message headers.  I don’t typically use html for posts, but to
make it easier to see what I’m talking about, I’ve bolded what’s confusing
the heck out of me.

	For instance, here's the pertinent part of the header for her post
below:

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	Clearly, I don’t think Pat is prescient about this stuff a full 7
years before the posts to which she is responding are being sent  J

	I guess what I’m trying to figure out is if the problem is with her
machine, with my machine, or with something else altogether?  Any ideas?

	TIA,

	Saundra Lund
	Moscow, ID

	The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people
to do nothing.
	- Edmund Burke 

	-----Original Message-----
	From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of Pat Kraut
	Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 11:07 AM
	To: vision2020
	Subject: [Vision2020] Population

	"In just 20 or 30 years Iran has gone from six children per woman to
two. In

	other words, the U.S. now has a higher fertility rate than Iran. Now
that's

	of interest in its own right, but it also means that in 15 or 20
years,

	you're going to have far fewer young men of the sort who represent
the

	violent , active militant groups. It's quite likely that there will
be a

	decline of religious conflict."

	Philip Jenkins, Professor of history and religious studies at Penn
ST U.

	'The New Facts of Christianity'

	I am not sure why you keep posting this quote from Doug but you need
to know

	that a good many are looking at this sort of demographic. One of the

	processes is that the Muslims in many former Soviet countries are
have lots

	of children but others are not so soon we could see some serious
changes in

	other countries also. What we think we know today will need to be
carefully

	watched and we need to be flexible. So is it that Doug is aware of
these

	changes and you are not willing to accept he may know something you
don't?

	Or do you keep posting this so that we will all have the info and be
sure to

	understand that changes are coming and many people are studying it??

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