[Vision2020] Fw: house bill 172

Sue Hovey suehovey at moscow.com
Tue Mar 6 13:53:20 PST 2007


Wouldn't you think so.  There are obviously a number of legislators who feel 
women should be at home taking care of their children themselves, so loving 
mothers don't need safe day care.  They probably go on to believe that a 
woman who needs protection from an angry ex-spouse shouldn't have done 
something to provoke his anger in the first place.

Of course they did make the connection between minimum wage and day care. 
With minimum wage increases women who might then be able to afford it just 
might want to be sure it was safe.

This could be the session for someone to introduce some legislation limiting 
the size of the stick a man can use to beat his wife.  I think in Puritan 
times it could be no larger than his thumb.  Somehow that must have gotten 
lost in the rewriting of the statutes as they spread throughout the U.S.   I 
can't imagine it would have been repealed.

Sue Hovey


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Art Deco" <deco at moscow.com>
To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Fw: house bill 172


> Is there a relationship between the rejection of this proposed bill and 
> the
> one dealing with day care?
>
> W.
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> From: "lfalen" <lfalen at turbonet.com>
> To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 12:16 PM
> Subject: [Vision2020] Fw: house bill 172
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>> -----Original message-----
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>> From: "Tom Trail" ttrail at house.state.id.us
>> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 11:53:01 -0800
>> To: "lfalen" lfalen at turbonet.com
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] house bill 172
>>
>> Roger--You can share this if you'd like.   Shirley and I were stunned 
>> when
>> the committee rejected the amendments
>> that they asked us to bring to them.   I believe it was not so much the
>> amendments as the bill itself.  The courts
>> asked for several additional amendments including one from the courts and
>> the other to protect the state from
>> liability in the extreme case that someone in the Secretary of States
>> office leaked confidential information.  These
>> were the amendments.
>>
>> Generally, the amendments are the only thing debated when you bring them
>> in once the Committee has approved
>> the bill.    But all of a sudden it seemed that we were debating the bill
>> again.   One committee member said that
>> several people had come up to him and said they disagreed against the
>> bill, but they certainly didn't show up
>> to testify.
>>
>> One committee member asked how the Idaho Prosecutors stood on the bill.
>> I had contacted their lobbyist
>> on three different occasions and never heard anything.   Shirley checked
>> with Bill Thompson who is now the
>> State President of the Prosecuting Attorneys Association.   Apparently a
>> notice went out to all of the
>> prosecuting attorney's in the state to comment on the bill and no 
>> feedback
>> was received.   The problem
>> was that Shirley and I were not notified about this and could not bring
>> this up to the committee.
>>
>> We feel that this was handled poorly in committee.   Committee members
>> that we interviewed after the
>> meeting were all confused and really couldn't give us any good reason for
>> the negative vote.
>>
>> We will come back again next year with the bill.   We need to get the
>> State Groups who represent Women
>> who are victims of domestic violence to come out and testify next time
>> around.
>>
>> Rep. Tom Trail
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> 3/6/2007 10:13 AM >>>
>> House Bill 172 was sent back to committee for revision. It still lost.I
>> think the vote was 8 to 7. I would like to thank Tom Trail, Shirley 
>> Ringo,
>> LiZ Brandt and Carl Hulquist for there hard work on this bill. We will 
>> all
>> have to find out what the objections were, refine the bill and try again
>> next year. Tom and Shirley will continue to work on it. The Attorney
>> General's office is also supportive. Everyone will keep trying until we
>> make it.
>> Maybe Tom and Shirley can give us some more indepth information.
>>
>> Roger
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