[Vision2020] Ten Sitler Questions

Paul Rumelhart godshatter at yahoo.com
Sat Jun 30 09:43:07 PDT 2007


Some rights are more obvious than others, such as the right a child has 
not to be molested. It's always the edge cases you have to watch the 
closest.

Paul

J Ford wrote:
>
> I never stated that you were/are against children. It just makes me 
> sick that you and others complain about the "RIGHTS" of Sitler and his 
> kind and seemingly forget that their victim's rights were and are 
> trampled on like they simply don't matter.
>
> I, for one, am sick to death of hearing of the "RIGHTS" of the 
> victimizer and NOTHING of the victims.
>
> J :]
>
>
>
>
>
>> From: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
>> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Ten Sitler Questions
>> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 22:40:40 -0700
>>
>> I'm not anti-children. If you believe I am, you're wrong. I don't like
>> defending people like this, either, but either our rights that we have
>> mean something or they don't. If they can be completely taken away
>> because you or others hate this guy, then our rights are a figment of
>> our imagination and we don't deserve what little of them we have left.
>> The system may be broken, but it's the system we have. We don't have the
>> right to punish this guy ourselves.
>>
>> That's all I'm saying. And I'm done saying it.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> J Ford wrote:
>> >
>> > Sorry to be so blunt, but "F" Sitler's rights! What "RIGHT" does he
>> > have to commit and continue to commit these types of crimes against
>> > our childrens? What "RIGHT" does he have to be ALLOWED to commit these
>> > types of crimes? What "RIGHT" does he have to make our children
>> > targets of his sick, twisted fantasies?
>> >
>> > I have NO pity for this type of offender...you have no idea what harm
>> > and ever-lasting damage his kind force onto the most innocent of our
>> > citizens. Speaking from first hand knowledge - his type of behavior is
>> > a KILLER of the children it is foisted upon.
>> >
>> > So again I say "F" Sitler's "rights" - the second he decided this was
>> > his lifestyle that he wants to engage in, he gave up ANY "rights" he
>> > may have or will have...forever!!!
>> >
>> > And, what makes you think he or his type are not putting our
>> > children's pictures on the internet for other of his ilk to drool
>> > over, dream about, masturbate from. I don't see you crying for those
>> > children's "exposure" which is totally unwanted and dangerous. It
>> > permanently marks those children - do you really think his "rights"
>> > outweigh those of his victims?
>> >
>> > The "witch" hunt was begun by Sitler and others like him against our
>> > children. When are you going to get it that THAT is what needs to be
>> > stopped? Other offender's crimes are posted and broadcast all over the
>> > news to the minutest detail...why not Sitler's?
>> >
>> >
>> > J :]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> From: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
>> >> To: Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Ten Sitler Questions
>> >> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 21:30:53 -0700
>> >>
>> >> Ok, time for an unpopular viewpoint. Are we taking this too far?
>> >> Where do we draw the line between protection of the public and this
>> >> man's rights? I understand that he lost many rights when he did what
>> >> he did. But couldn't we be taking things too far?
>> >>
>> >> Yes, binoculars can enable his voyeurism. However, he can actually
>> >> see without them through his eyeballs. Should we gouge them out as a
>> >> precaution?
>> >>
>> >> I agree with you on the questions about why he was let out on parole
>> >> so early, I agree that he's probably at high risk to reoffend. I
>> >> think we would be better off if he served more of his original
>> >> sentence. I understand that children need to be protected. But where
>> >> do we draw the line? We're posting this man's episodes of
>> >> masturbation on a public forum.
>> >>
>> >> I see the makings of a witch-hunt here, and it makes me 
>> uncomfortable.
>> >>
>> >> Just my opinion.
>> >>
>> >> Paul
>> >>
>> >> Art Deco wrote:
>> >>> Here is a letter from one of the persons providing sexual offender
>> >>> treatment to Steven Sitler. This letter is found as part of a
>> >>> /Report of Probation Violation/ filed in the court by Senior
>> >>> Probation Officer Jackye Squires Leonard.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Dalton Lombard, D.Min, LCPC
>> >>>
>> >>> P O Box 1911
>> >>>
>> >>> Lewiston, Id. 83501
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> June 18, 2007
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Jackie Squires
>> >>>
>> >>> Probation and Parole
>> >>>
>> >>> Moscow Idaho 83843
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> RE. Steven Shier
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Dear Ms. Squires,
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> This note is in response lo our Telephone conversation today. During
>> >>> the weekly check in time for the offender group I lead for Valley
>> >>> Treatment Specialties Mr. Sitler reported that he had masturbated on
>> >>> two occasions during the previous week. When asked for more detail
>> >>> about the circumstances and fantasies he experienced during his
>> >>> masturbation he reported that he had been looking in a neighbor's
>> >>> window with his binoculars. As a result he became aroused and later
>> >>> masturbated. He denied viewing anyone at the residence but
>> >>> acknowledged that he was aroused by looking in the window. He stated
>> >>> to the group that voyeurism is one of the behaviors be engaged in
>> >>> prior to and leading up to the offences he was convicted of.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I consider this to be a very high risk behavior for Mr. Sitler
>> >>> considering he had been out of jail less than a month at the lime he
>> >>> reported the behavior. In my mind this behavior constitutes a
>> >>> violation of his parole and of his treatment contract with Valley
>> >>> Treatment Specialties.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Thank you for your consideration in this matter.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> /s/
>> >>>
>> >>> Dalton Lombard
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> The contents of this letter and other events raise some questions.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> First, with respect to the binoculars:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> 1. When did Sitler acquire the binoculars?
>> >>>
>> >>> 2. Did he previously possess them and someone returned them to him,
>> >>> did he lately acquire them, or did someone lately acquire them 
>> for him?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Given his history of voyeurism and its leading up pedophilic 
>> incidents:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> 3. What was his motivation for either acquiring or keeping the
>> >>> binoculars?
>> >>>
>> >>> 4. Shouldn't the possession of binoculars been a no-no in his
>> >>> probation agreement?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Second, considering the comment "I consider this to be a very high
>> >>> risk behavior for Mr. Sitler" from his therapist:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> 5. Why was bail granted at all?
>> >>>
>> >>> 6. Is he not a high risk to reoffend?
>> >>>
>> >>> 7. Why hasn't a Motion to Revoke Probation been filed by the
>> >>> prosecuting attorney so that an evidentiary hearing can be held and
>> >>> a decision whether to revoke probation or not be made by the court?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> There is a new letter from Dr. Lombard to Judge Stegner now in the
>> >>> file:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> 8. Why has this letter been sealed?
>> >>>
>> >>> 9. Aren't the citizens whose children who are now at risk with
>> >>> Sitler out on probation entitled to the information which would
>> >>> allow them to:
>> >>>
>> >>> a. Evaluate the risk?
>> >>>
>> >>> b. Express their opinions to the prosecutor, media, etc.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Sitler was ordered by the court to vacate his current residence on
>> >>> June 19, 2007. Today is June 29, 2007. The screen snapshot just
>> >>> below was taken at 7:30 pm today (06/29/07).
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> According to the Idaho Central Sexual Offender Website
>> >>> 
>> http://www.isp.state.id.us/identification/sex_offender/obligations.html
>> >>> Sitler is obligated to:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Within 2 working days of changing the address or location of
>> >>> residence within the county where the sex offender is registered,
>> >>> the offender must complete an address change form in person with the
>> >>> sheriff of that county of the change.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> OR
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Within 5 working days of moving to another state, the registered sex
>> >>> offender must provide written notice of the move to the central sex
>> >>> offender registry. The person must also register in the other State
>> >>> within the time period required by that State, but not to exceed 10
>> >>> days.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> 10. Has Sitler complied with the above but for administrative
>> >>> ineptitude his State of Idaho sexual offender profile has not yet
>> >>> been updated?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> As of now, a status hearing on this matter is scheduled for Monday,
>> >>> July 2nd at 2:00 pm. Since schedules can change, those interested
>> >>> should call the Clerk of the Court's office early Monday to check
>> >>> for any change (Courthouse: 882-8580).
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Wayne A. Fox
>> >>> 1009 Karen Lane
>> >>> PO Box 9421
>> >>> Moscow, ID 83843
>> >>> (208) 882-7975
>> >>> waf at moscow.com <mailto:waf at moscow.com>
>> >>> 
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