[Vision2020] Sitler wore a Kirk-orange jumpsuit:Mr. Schwallerdidnot appear

Wed Jun 20 12:48:15 PDT 2007

For the future of the community what this unfortunate exchange, probably initially born out of extreme frustration, illustrates more than anything in my opinion is that currently the methods and means of disseminating information about pedophiles and other high risk offenders present in our community is cumbersome and is not working very well.

Excuse me for repeating:  The local media needs to keeps us informed with pictures, address, and a summary and brief description of the offenses whenever an offender moves into or changes location in the area.  Also, an officially maintained website with a click and view map would also be an even greater help for those with internet access.

It all seems to me that the state law dealing with where certain kinds of sexual offenders can live needs to strengthened to include minimum distances from day care centers, parks, and other places where children are likely to be found.  I also think the 500' distance from schools in the current statute is too little a distance.

I agree with parts of Tom Ivie's earlier post.  We ought not be lumping all sex offenders together and treating them alike.  Some pose much, much greater danger to the community than others.  We need to recognize this and adjust the statutes accordingly.

That said, however, we need to rethink about what to do with serial pedophiles and other dangerous offenders once they are released.  In my opinion, the balance between the rights of a pedophile who has served his sentence and the safety of children in a community are skewed presently in favor of the offenders in Idaho.

Although some ugly comments have appeared in the general discussions of Sitler, what is positive is that some people are willing now to deal openly with the issue and discuss it in open and candid terms.  From this I hope positive change can come.

Child sexual abuse is difficult to eradicate or even reduce because of the serious amount of undetected cases and unreported once detected cases.  That this situation exists does not speak well of our general commitment to the safety of our community's children.

W.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: keely emerinemix 
To: Debbie Gray ; vision2020 at moscow.com 
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sitler wore a Kirk-orange jumpsuit:Mr. Schwallerdidnot appear

I was in Spokane most of yesterday and missed the exchange regarding Phil Gray, but while Debbie says it better than I ever could, I will say this:

Enough.

Phil Gray, like all of the other deputies and police officers, is a hero in a community sadly lacking in them.  My alliance, as it were, is with people who speak the truth when they know it and seek the truth when they don't have it.  It's not with name-calling bombthrowers, no matter how much they dislike Christ Church.  A concern about a local organization is not enough of a point of commonality for me to accept recklessness like this, and I have to express my deep regret to Debbie and Phil and everyone else painted with such a venomous brush.  It's wrong -- factually, morally, and every other way.

keely

"And these women that you spit on as they try to change their worlds/
Are immune to your consultations . . . they're quite aware of what they're going through"
(With apologies to David Bowie)

> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 23:37:11 -0700
> From: graylex at yahoo.com
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Sitler wore a Kirk-orange jumpsuit: Mr. Schwallerdidnot appear
> 
> Dear JFord (or may I call you Jackie?)
> 
> As the spouse of the Sheriff's Deputy you vilify
> below, I am, frankly, enraged and nauseated by your
> ignorant, paranoid remarks about his “duty” to
> participate in your ridiculous witch hunt against
> Steven Sitler. 
> 
> JFord writes: "Since it has come as some kind of
> surprise as to where Sitler was living - at least a
> surprise to his neighbors - and since we can't seem to
> get the Sheriff's cooperation in letting their own
> neighbors know when one of them moves in next door...”
> 
> 
> “And how about the fact that a Sheriff's Deputy,
> living in the same neighborhood as Sitler DID NOTHING
> TO WARN THE OTHER RESIDENTS NOR THE DA NOR THE
> SHERIFF'S OFFICE that Sitler may be in violation of
> his parole conditions. THERE's someone that need to
> have his job yanked!”
> 
> Who is this “we” of which you speak? Is there a
> neighborhood watch group I should be introduced to
> (Citizen Advocates for Christ Church Arrests… CACCA)?
> And do remind me again where you live, because I don’t
> recall meeting you during the past 10 years I’ve lived
> in this neighborhood… 
> 
> Do you know how my husband found out Sitler moved in 5
> houses down from us? I told him. How did I find out?
> By checking the Idaho State Registered Sex Offender
> List. Because that’s what it’s FOR. To provide
> information accessible to all. He doesn't get secret
> missives tracking the location and activity of every
> known criminal / registered sex offender / etc. We
> have told several of our neighbors since we found out
> but, unlike YOU, weren't compelled to canvas the
> neighborhood spreading the word about one person in
> particular based on your hatred of the church he
> attended. That seems fairly hypocritical, too, given
> that there are a few other registered sex offenders
> living in this same neighborhood (see for example:
> Buckingham, Robert, 595 W C St., let’s see that on the
> map). Where is the outcry and uproar about this person
> and his proximity to West Park and the
> Almon-Asbury-Lieuellan Park? (Hint, he’s closer to
> both than Sitler was.) He's lived here for a while,
> but I haven't seen you in the neighborhood stalking
> him or heard of you harassing the DA, probation
> office, etc about him. 
> 
> Your motives are so incredibly transparent here and
> yet you claim to want only to protect the children.
> Whatever. What about all the registered sex offenders
> in this county? Not a peep on Vision2020 about any of
> them until Christ Church was involved. 
> 
> Bill Thompson stated that the location of Sitler’s
> residence is not in violation of his parole. His
> actions are what triggered his parole violation. How
> many other individuals have violated their probation
> or parole guidelines in the past month and for what
> crimes are they on p/p for? Oh, not keeping track of
> anyone else, right? My bad. 
> 
> And now not only do I have to worry about Mr. Sitler
> and his voyeurism, I can now worry about your
> psychotic stalking behavior. How is it that you know a
> sheriff's deputy lives in this neighborhood? What have
> you been doing in this neighborhood? We’re surrounded
> by several dead end streets, it’s NOT a neighborhood
> that people just happen to drive by unless they’re
> here for a reason (stalking, harassment, snooping,
> surveillance, mentally unstable behaviors of all
> varieties). Frankly, your comments are creeping me out
> more than the fact that Steven Sitler lived 5 houses
> away from us. 
> 
> As for whether the sheriff’s office or other law
> enforcement people or judges or attorneys must alert
> their neighborhood to every criminal that moves in…I
> didn't realize it was in the scope of their work to
> review the terms and conditions of each and every
> probation and parole client in order to determine
> whether there is or MAY BE a violation. In fact, it is
> not. That would be the job of let's call it 'probation
> and parole.' There are hundreds of people in this
> town / county who’ve served time in jail, been
> arrested, been convicted, etc of a variety of crimes.
> Why are you limiting your outcry to one particular
> person? What makes this ONE potential probationer
> unique to you? Hmmmmm. Could it be?? His affiliation
> with Christ Church?? 
> 
> And ignoring all your other <insert synonym for
> ignorant because I can’t think of any more>
> accusations and outcries, demanding that my husband
> lose his job for his failure to “WARN THE OTHER
> RESIDENTS NOR THE DA NOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE that
> Sitler may be in violation of his parole conditions”
> is so ridiculously idiotic that you have almost left
> me speechless. 
> 
> Of all the things that our local law enforcement
> officers have dealt with in the past 30 days ALONE,
> and especially my husband because I know exactly what
> he HAS being dealing with and you have the
> self-centered, twisted, hate-filled SICK mind to want
> him fired for …. WHAT? What, exactly was he supposed
> to do in order to fulfill your fantasy needs of law
> enforcement services AS APPLIED TO THE NARROW CONFINES
> OF PEOPLE WHO HATE ANYTHING TO DO WITH CHRIST CHURCH.
> 
> Perhaps it would be best for you to return to your
> residence, put the tinfoil back on your windows and
> shut your mouth. You’re not doing this for the
> children. You’re on a hate-motivated witch hunt and it
> and you are disgusting.
> 
> Debbie Gray 
> 
> 
> 
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