[Vision2020] Follow up - Islam the religion of peace!

[Carl Westberg]

".....which is more rational?"  The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, 
of course.  You can learn more.....http://www.venganza.org/       Carl 
Westberg Jr.


>From: "Kai Eiselein, editor" <editor at lataheagle.com>
>To: "Ted Moffett" <starbliss at gmail.com>,        "Donovan Arnold" 
><donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com, Carl Westberg <carlwestberg846 at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Follow up - Islam the religion of peace!
>Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 15:29:01 -0700
>
>Christians: In the beginning, there was nothing, then God created the 
>heavens and the Earth.
>(Some) Native Americans: Raven created the Earth.
> >From China: Long, long ago, when heaven and earth were still one, the 
>entire universe was contained in an egg-shaped cloud. All the matter of the 
>universe swirled chaotically in that egg. Deep within the swirling matter 
>was Pan Gu, a huge giant who grew in the chaos. For 18,000 years he 
>developed and slept in the egg. Finally one day he awoke and stretched, and 
>the egg broke to release the matter of the universe. The lighter purer 
>elements drifted upwards to make the sky and heavens, and the heavier 
>impure elements settled downwards to make the earth.
>Mossi (Africa):   In the beginning there was no earth, no day or night, and 
>not even time itself. All that existed was the Kingdom of Everlasting 
>Truth, which was ruled by the Naba Zid-Wendé. The Naba Zid-Wendé made the 
>earth, and then they made the day and the night.
> >From India: In the beginning there was absolutely nothing, and what 
>existed was covered by death and hunger. He thought, "Let me have a self", 
>and he created the mind. As he moved about in worship, water was generated. 
>Froth formed on the water, and the froth eventually solidifed to become 
>earth. He rested on the earth, and from his luminence came fire. After 
>resting, he divided himself in three parts, and one is fire, one is the 
>sun, and one is the air.
>Science: There was nothing.... and then it exploded.
>Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, which is more rational?
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Ted Moffett
>   To: Donovan Arnold
>   Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com ; Carl Westberg
>   Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 2:50 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Follow up - Islam the religion of peace!
>
>
>
>   Donovan et. al.
>
>   I have heard your argument numerous times from various sources.  It is 
>specious.
>
>   Assuming we do not know for certain what God, the Goddess, Gods or 
>Goddesses, or various other possible forms of supreme beings or powers, 
>will regard as the correct way of thinking, it remains possible that being 
>agnostic will be regarded by the supreme being, beings or powers in our 
>universe, as the most laudable and rational response to the evidence based 
>on reason.  Therefore agnostics may turn out to be the chosen people, and 
>the so called "faithful" will be viewed in a less than favorable light for 
>their blind allegiance to dogmatic doctrines that are not supported 
>sufficiently by evidence or reason.
>
>   Ted Moffett
>
>
>   On 5/31/07, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>     Carl,
>
>     It is illogical to be agnostic. If you die, which you will, and there 
>is in fact a God, you best have worshiped him. On the other, if there is no 
>God, it won't count against you.
>
>     Best,
>
>     Donovan
>
>
>     keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote:
>       And, as one of your Christian friends, I love you for that, Carl.
>
>       No, wait -- I hate you.  I think.
>
>       AAARRRRGGGHHHH!  It's so confusing -- who to hate, who to love, who 
>to pray against, who to call "brother" or "sister,"  who to make fun of.  
>If only there were a guide . . .
>
>       keely
>
>       > From: carlwestberg846 at hotmail.com
>       > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>       > Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 17:13:26 -0700
>       > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Follow up - Islam the religion of peace!
>       >
>       > The repeated attempts by certain Christian folk to convince me 
>that by the
>       > mere fact of being Muslim, one is evil, makes me all the more 
>convinced that
>       > to remain an agnostic who has Muslims and Christians in his circle 
>of
>       > friends is the right choice. Carl Westberg Jr.
>       >
>       >
>
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