[Vision2020] Mere Christianity!

[pkraut at moscow.com]

I have read Josh and have found him very enlightening and he has won many 
to Christ. But, I also know someone who started reading and questioning 
his life and beliefs in the bible because of Ralphs writings...and is now 
a very strong believer! In the end Ralph your questions are just silly.
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>



 Ralph, 
>  
> I thought I'd hear from you on this!
>  
> I believe that Jesus is in Heaven, having risen from the grave.  You
don't.>   And so, since some thinking people might take either of us 
seriously,
let> 's let them decide -- with or without Josh McDowell, whose apologetic
works>  I haven't read.  
>  
> But that's OK.  He hasn't read mine, either.
>  
> keely"And these women that you spit on as they try to change their
worlds/A> re immune to your consultations . . . they're quite aware of 
what they're
g> oing through"(With apologies to David Bowie)> From: nielsen at uidaho.edu>
Dat> e: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:41:11 -0700> To: Vision2020 at moscow.com> 
Subject:
[Vi> sion2020] Mere Christianity!> > Reading some of the reasons why some 
of
our>  readers believe what they > call Christianity is like reading Josh
McDowel> l, who cannot be taken > seriously by thinking people.> > There 
is no
evide> nce that Jesus or anybody else rose from the dead, > whether in
Christianit> y, Judaism, Hinduism, or whatever. The claim > that most of 
the alleged
dis> ciples of Jesus died martyr's death is > pure fiction. The Bible 
doesn't
ev> en agree on who they were. And > there are no credible accounts of how
they>  were supposed to have > died. Of course, that in itself proves 
nothing
abo> ut the alleged > "truth" for which they are supposed to have died. 
History
> is full of > martyrs who died for what they believed was the "truth."> >
He> re is another difficulty for resurrection believers. If Jesus rose >
physic> ally from the grave, where is he today--physically? The gospel > 
called
Mar> k has no post-resurrection accounts at all. The one called > Matthew 
ends
w> ith Jesus on a mountain in Galilee. Luke has Jesus > going up into the
clou> ds from Bethany, which is nowhere near Galilee. > John has no 
ascension
acc> ount at all. His Jesus is already > transformed into a part-physical,
part-> spirit form which doesn't need > to ascend anywhere. Are these 
reliable
eye> -witness accounts? Give us > a break!> >
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