[Vision2020] 11 year girl

[lfalen]

Tim
You are correct it was the City Council of Greenleaf. I would strongly encourage everyone who owns a gun  be trained in gun safety.
Roger
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From: TIM RIGSBY tim.rigsby at hotmail.com
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 06:48:42 -0700
To: Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com,  "'Kai Eiselein'" fotopro63 at hotmail.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] 11 year girl

> Not necessarily the City Police Department, but I believe that it was the City Council of the town of Greenleaf, ID that made headlines this spring for passing a ordinance requesting that every head of household purchase and retain firearms for the protection of the community.  The ordinance said something like buy guns, get trained on how to use them, and then use them if needed to protect your family and your town.  I could be wrong though." 'Politics is the art of controlling your environment.' That is one of the key things I learned in these years, and I learned it the hard way. Anybody who thinks that 'it doesn't matter who's President' has never been Drafted and sent off to fight and die in a vicious, stupid War on the other side of the World -- or been beaten and gassed by Police for trespassing on public property -- or been hounded by the IRS for purely political reasons -- or locked up in the Cook County Jail with a broken nose and no phone access and twelve perve!
 rts
wanting to stomp your ass in the shower. That is when it matters who is President or Governor or Police Chief. That is when you will wish you had voted." - Hunter S. ThompsonFrom: thansen at moscow.comTo: fotopro63 at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.comDate: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 05:30:40 -0700Subject: Re: [Vision2020] 11 year girl
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> A couple questions, Kai (although they
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> Moscow, Idaho
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> "We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The college
> students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."
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> - Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007) 
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> [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On
> Behalf Of Kai Eiselein
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007
> 9:59 PM
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] 11 year
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> Saundra,
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> Huh? Where did I "defend" an obvious hoax?
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> I merely pointed out that real, live, verifiable cases of people defending
> themselves with a gun actually DO occur.
> On a fairly regular basis even.
> It was YOU who decided to use the typical radical left wing tactic of using a
> child's death to try to make a point. (Just like the typical radical right wing
> tactic of saying immigrants are ruining the country)I used the fact that a very
> high number of children die from drowning, which, like firearm deaths, are
> completely preventable.
> Unfortunately, the CDC doesn't give a complete age breakdown on firearm deaths.
> (People 20 and under are considered "children") I used to have a
> better age breakdown, which showed more young kids died of drowning in the home
> than did by firearm. If I run across it, I'll post it.
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> You, Saundra are the one who used the terms "gun nuts" and
> "anti-immigration nuts".
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> Sorry, I'm not the nut here, I advocate the legal and responsible possession
> and use of firearms. Including the right to defend oneself from intruders. 
> I also advocate legal, responsible and steady immigration into this country,
> NOT the sieve we've got now.
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> My case isn't weak, it is lawful. The rightful and just application of law
> should ALWAYS trump emotion and party dogma.
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