[Vision2020] From the pages of the Nogales (AZ) International
pkraut at moscow.com
pkraut at moscow.com
Mon Jul 23 12:34:41 PDT 2007
And those root causes are complex...much more so than many realize.
> There are a couple of things that are getting lost here. Not all of the
> people coming across the border illegally are "nice".
> There is a huge problem with violent drug traffickers. US agents are
> getting shot at on a regular basis. Mexican agents engaged drug-gang
> members in a huge shootout not far from Nogales not too long ago.
> Heaven forbid a hiker should cross paths with smugglers, the hiker won't
> stand a chance.
> Mexico has vast natural resources, and could pull itself out of the
> third world. But why should it? Its citzens leave, relieving it of a
> burden, and they send US dollars back, helping Mexico's economy with no
> effort on the part of the government.
> What a great cash cow, moooooooooo.
> Until the US starts applying "real" pressure on Mexico, its corrupt
> system will operate as usual.
> I doubt that will happen anytime soon. The US has its own problems with
> corruption, namely the Democratic and Republican parties both of which
> use illegalls for their own purposes.
> The flood of humanity breaching our southern border will not be stemmed
> until the root causes are addressed and eliminated.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ellen Roskovich
> To: kjajmix1 at msn.com ; pkraut at moscow.com ; vision2020 at moscow.com
> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 7:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] From the pages of the Nogales (AZ)
> International
>
>
> Mexicans greedy? I think not. . .a tad delusional perhaps. What
> makes them think they're going to see a doctor or a dentist when so many
> hard working U.S. citizens cannot afford to. Someone on the other side
> of the border must be feeding them a crock. . . . or they just can't
> read the news and understand how caring our Government is toward it's
> veterans, young children, mentally ill, senior citizens and the working
> class poor.
>
>
>
> Damn, isn't that pretty much all of us?
>
>
>
> Ellen Roskovich
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> From: keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
> To: <pkraut at moscow.com>, <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] From the pages of the Nogales (AZ)
> International
> Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:31:26 -0700
>
> Yes, the scores and scores of Mexican immigrants I know are here
> just because they're greedy enough to want their kids to have enough to
> eat and clothes to wear. Maybe a doctor when necessary -- and the
> really avaricious ones think they might even get to see a dentist before
> they lose all their teeth.
>
> Boy, that sort of thing really chaps my hide. I'd write more, but
> I'm off to the store to get AA batteries for my sons' headphones. Not
> the on-ear ones. The other ones. It's hard to keep track.
>
> keely
>
> "And these women that you spit on as they try to change their
> worlds/
> Are immune to your consultations . . . they're quite aware of what
> they're going through"
> (With apologies to David Bowie)
>
>
> > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > From: pkraut at moscow.com
> > Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 00:53:08 +0000
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] From the pages of the Nogales (AZ)
> International
> >
> > For me the sad thing is the children abandoned on the border. Many
>
> > churches are working overtime trying to feed and clothe them. I
> think it
> > is just greed that brings so many accross the border. And Mexico
> doesn't
> > care to help fix the problems because they are greedy also.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Kai,
> > >
> > > I just read a similar heartbreaking article in the Texas
> Observer. In
> > Webb
> > > County the budget for the Coroner and the monies for indigent
> care were
> > > depleted by April. There are graveyards all over these border
> counties
> > > where the bodies of unidentified Mexican nationals are buried,
> most of
> > whom
> > > have died from dehydration or other illness. There are many more
>
> > positive
> > > things we could do here that would benefit both countries more
> than
> > building
> > > some damned fence.
> > >
> > > Sue
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Kai Eiselein, editor" <editor at lataheagle.com>
> > > To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 12:46 PM
> > > Subject: [Vision2020] From the pages of the Nogales (AZ)
> International
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Sunday, July 16, at 6:05 a.m. a man flagged down a Border
> Patrol
> > > > vehicle
> > > > on the west side of Rio Rico near Via Encinos and Calvillo
> Court in an
> > > > effort to help his brother. Omar Lopez Mendiola, 28, had
> apparently
> > become
> > > > sick and eventually unresponsive after the two had crossed
> over the
> > > > U.S.-Mexico border. Emergency personnel from the Rio Rico Fire
>
> > Department
> > > > were unable to revive the victim, and he was pronounced dead
> at 7:30
> > a.m.
> > > > Santa Cruz County Sheriff Tony Estrada said he waiting for a
> medical
> > > > examiner's report on the cause of death.
> > > > Eleventh this year
> > > > "That makes it 11 so far this year," said Estrada, referring
> to the
> > number
> > > > of illegal border crossers who are known to have died in Santa
> Cruz
> > County
> > > > since Jan. 1.
> > > >
> > > > "We had 12 in total last year. We're not even half way and
> almost
> > meeting
> > > > the same numbers as last year. That is not good at all."
> > > > "This is very sad," said Georgina de la Garza Garcia, a
> spokesperson
> > for
> > > > the
> > > > Mexican Consulate after notification of the incident.
> > > > She said that even though the brother of the deceased notified
> the
> > next of
> > > > kin, it often becomes the job of the consulate to try and
> locate the
> > > > family
> > > > of deceased Mexican nationals.
> > > > According to De la Garza Garcia, if a deceased individual has
> > > > identification
> > > > then the consulate attempts to find their family members
> through the
> > > > Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Mexico.
> > > > Consulate helps the family
> > > > Once relatives are certain that the deceased is a relative
> (usually
> > > > through
> > > > the recognition of certain belongings), the Mexican Consulate
> helps the
> > > > family to transfer the body to their hometown in Mexico for
> burial.
> > > > If the victim cannot be identified in Mexico, the Mexican
> Consulate
> > > > extends
> > > > its search through its offices in the United States to see if
> anyone
> > has
> > > > inquired about a lost person.
> > > > Mendiola was from Iztapalapa, located in eastern Mexico City.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Kai Eiselein, editor
> > > > Latah Eagle
> > > >
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