[Vision2020] campaign contributions

Wed Jul 18 08:05:02 PDT 2007

I feel like Miss Kitty -- a stable presence, yet unable to actually enter the stables to ride in the rodeo . . . keely"And these women that you spit on as they try to change their worlds/Are immune to your consultations . . . they're quite aware of what they're going through"(With apologies to David Bowie)From: thansen at moscow.comTo: kjajmix1 at msn.com; donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com; vision2020 at moscow.comSubject: RE: [Vision2020] campaign contributionsDate: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:01:45 -0700

Oh, dear, dear keely –

All this hootin’ and hollerin’ is sure to
culminate in one final showdown at the Boise OK Corral between “Whiney” Weitz, “Heartless”
Harter, and “Looney” Luna as they face off against the pro-education hooligans,
comprised of Candis “The Cannon” Donicht, Moscow’s “School of Cool” District, and
Rep. Shirley “The Enforcer” . . .

“Ringo”

http://www.tomandrodna.com/Songs/Ringo.mp3

Seeya round town, Moscow.

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

"I think one of the best ways to support education is to make successful
private schools like Logos prosper through tax exemption."

- Donovan Arnold (July 11, 2005)

From:
vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of keely emerinemix
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 8:34
PM
To: Donovan Arnold;
vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] campaign
contributions

Of course, if MSD had "worked
things out" with Gerry Weitz, and presumably, then, with every other
stakeholder who has had suggestions or concerns about the educational
programming offered by the District, it would have to then reconcile those ideas,
meritorious though they may be, with those pesky State and Federal programming
and curriculum requirements, which, while often difficult to enact, have that
MANDATE thing attached to them.

Seeing that PUBLIC EDUCATION is funded by taxpayers and regulated by the State
and, more than it should be, the Federal Government, it would seem that
attempts to craft a program offering a little of this and a little of that and
quite a bit more of the other is appropriate for private schools, who only
answer to paying parents.  Public schools, however, are in the unenviable
position of having to answer to the State and the Feds as well as the
taxpayers.  They're bound by law, by strict state and Federal guidelines,
by funding (both by legislative fiat and by appeals to voters) and by
facilities.  

Believe it or not, Donovan, this is not a case of Candis Donicht and a maverick
school board deliberately deciding to annoy Gerry Weitz, and neither is it a
result of a concentrated effort to ignore certain students.  On the other hand,
if you're willing to believe that the current and former board members and
current administration are all demons incarnate, you won't be persuaded by
reality -- the same reality the rest of the world has to work with.

keely

"And these women that you spit on as
they try to change their worlds/
Are immune to your consultations . . . they're quite aware of what they're
going through"
(With apologies to David Bowie)

Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:09:57
-0700
From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] campaign contributions

Joe Campbell wrote:

"What exactly, Donovan, did you think that the MSD
should have worked
out with Weitz? And for what reason?"

I think they should have worked out better funding of
vocational education and to reduce discrimination against
non-college bound students. And for the reason of being fair and ensuring
that public education provides equal benefit to all students as well as providing
the students with some job related skills so they can be gainfully employed
when they graduate high school.

Joe also writes:

"I'll save you the trouble and state your reply:
"Since you are a teacher, Joe, your opinion is prejudiced and doesn't
count." Thank God the issue isn't whether or not oxygen is essential to
life or else we'd all be unable to comment! "

You are incorrect here on three accounts. First, we all
breath, so breathing would be an equal bias on all people, thus not making it a
bias. Second, you would be the only person in education to state that
being a teacher has not impacted their way of thinking. Third, and final,
since you are philosophy teacher, you're biased in thinking that everyone can
be a philosophy teacher rather than understanding standing some people want to
be welders, carpenters, constructionists, nurses, drafters, operators,
truckers, and machinists,--occupations that actually produce public wealth,
not drain from it. 

Best,

Donovan

Joe Campbell
<joekc at adelphia.net> wrote:

Donovan writes: "It is unfortunate that MSD was
unwilling to work with Dr. Weitz before he had to take them to court. I would
image that such a reason has less to do with integrity and more to do with the
size of the gap differences in opinion."

What exactly, Donovan, did you think that the MSD should have worked out with
Weitz? And for what reason?

The merit of Weitzâ€™s lawsuit has not yet been decided. Even the decision by
the Deputy Attorney General, which Weitz and others keep circulating, states
that the law is ambiguous and subject to two distinct interpretations, one of
which is consistent with the MSD's actions. There is absolutely no reason for
the MSD to work out a deal with Weitz, either before the election, or at the
current moment. To do so would have been, or would be, irresponsible. The
problem lies with the law, not with the MSD -- and this is true even if Weitz
wins since that decision would set the legal precedent.

I'll save you the trouble and state your reply: "Since you are a teacher,
Joe, your opinion is prejudiced and doesn't count." 

Thank God the issue isn't whether or not oxygen is essential to life or else
we'd all be unable to comment! 

--
Joe Campbell

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Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:28:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: Donovan Arnold 
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] campaign contributions
To: Shirley Ringo , vision2020 at moscow.com
Message-ID: <981907.401.qm at web38112.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Shirley,

You are without a doubt the best current legislature from Latah, and certainly
have the most integrity of the three. But I am unable to find any vote you cast
since 1999 which was in opposition to the MSD or IEA agenda or stated
positions. If such disagreements exist between you and MSD and the IEA as you
stated, please be so kind as to point out a few for us.

I am glad you are able to work out differences with the MSD before taking them
to court. It is unfortunate that MSD was unwilling to work with Dr. Weitz
before he had to take them to court. I would image that such a reason has less
to do with integrity and more to do with the size of the gap differences in
opinion. 

Again, I would like to hear to what differences between the MSD and yourself
that you have worked out on behave of the people you represent. 

Best,

Donovan

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