[Vision2020] campaign contributions

Tue Jul 17 21:01:45 PDT 2007

Oh, dear, dear keely –

All this hootin’ and hollerin’ is sure to culminate in one final showdown at the Boise OK Corral between “Whiney” Weitz, “Heartless” Harter, and “Looney” Luna as they face off against the pro-education hooligans, comprised of Candis “The Cannon” Donicht, Moscow’s “School of Cool” District, and Rep. Shirley “The Enforcer” . . .

“Ringo”

http://www.tomandrodna.com/Songs/Ringo.mp3

Seeya round town, Moscow.

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

"I think one of the best ways to support education is to make successful private schools like Logos prosper through tax exemption."

- Donovan Arnold (July 11, 2005)

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From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On Behalf Of keely emerinemix
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 8:34 PM
To: Donovan Arnold; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] campaign contributions

Of course, if MSD had "worked things out" with Gerry Weitz, and presumably, then, with every other stakeholder who has had suggestions or concerns about the educational programming offered by the District, it would have to then reconcile those ideas, meritorious though they may be, with those pesky State and Federal programming and curriculum requirements, which, while often difficult to enact, have that MANDATE thing attached to them.

Seeing that PUBLIC EDUCATION is funded by taxpayers and regulated by the State and, more than it should be, the Federal Government, it would seem that attempts to craft a program offering a little of this and a little of that and quite a bit more of the other is appropriate for private schools, who only answer to paying parents.  Public schools, however, are in the unenviable position of having to answer to the State and the Feds as well as the taxpayers.  They're bound by law, by strict state and Federal guidelines, by funding (both by legislative fiat and by appeals to voters) and by facilities.  

Believe it or not, Donovan, this is not a case of Candis Donicht and a maverick school board deliberately deciding to annoy Gerry Weitz, and neither is it a result of a concentrated effort to ignore certain students.  On the other hand, if you're willing to believe that the current and former board members and current administration are all demons incarnate, you won't be persuaded by reality -- the same reality the rest of the world has to work with.

keely

"And these women that you spit on as they try to change their worlds/
Are immune to your consultations . . . they're quite aware of what they're going through"
(With apologies to David Bowie)

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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:09:57 -0700
From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] campaign contributions

Joe Campbell wrote:

"What exactly, Donovan, did you think that the MSD should have worked
out with Weitz? And for what reason?"

I think they should have worked out better funding of vocational education and to reduce discrimination against non-college bound students. And for the reason of being fair and ensuring that public education provides equal benefit to all students as well as providing the students with some job related skills so they can be gainfully employed when they graduate high school.

Joe also writes:

"I'll save you the trouble and state your reply: "Since you are a teacher, Joe, your opinion is prejudiced and doesn't count." Thank God the issue isn't whether or not oxygen is essential to life or else we'd all be unable to comment! "

You are incorrect here on three accounts. First, we all breath, so breathing would be an equal bias on all people, thus not making it a bias. Second, you would be the only person in education to state that being a teacher has not impacted their way of thinking. Third, and final, since you are philosophy teacher, you're biased in thinking that everyone can be a philosophy teacher rather than understanding standing some people want to be welders, carpenters, constructionists, nurses, drafters, operators, truckers, and machinists,--occupations that actually produce public wealth, not drain from it. 

Best,

Donovan

Joe Campbell <joekc at adelphia.net> wrote:

Donovan writes: "It is unfortunate that MSD was unwilling to work with Dr. Weitz before he had to take them to court. I would image that such a reason has less to do with integrity and more to do with the size of the gap differences in opinion."

What exactly, Donovan, did you think that the MSD should have worked out with Weitz? And for what reason?

The merit of Weitzâ€™s lawsuit has not yet been decided. Even the decision by the Deputy Attorney General, which Weitz and others keep circulating, states that the law is ambiguous and subject to two distinct interpretations, one of which is consistent with the MSD's actions. There is absolutely no reason for the MSD to work out a deal with Weitz, either before the election, or at the current moment. To do so would have been, or would be, irresponsible. The problem lies with the law, not with the MSD -- and this is true even if Weitz wins since that decision would set the legal precedent.

I'll save you the trouble and state your reply: "Since you are a teacher, Joe, your opinion is prejudiced and doesn't count." 

Thank God the issue isn't whether or not oxygen is essential to life or else we'd all be unable to comment! 

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Joe Campbell

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Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:28:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: Donovan Arnold 
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] campaign contributions
To: Shirley Ringo , vision2020 at moscow.com
Message-ID: <981907.401.qm at web38112.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Shirley,

You are without a doubt the best current legislature from Latah, and certainly have the most integrity of the three. But I am unable to find any vote you cast since 1999 which was in opposition to the MSD or IEA agenda or stated positions. If such disagreements exist between you and MSD and the IEA as you stated, please be so kind as to point out a few for us.

I am glad you are able to work out differences with the MSD before taking them to court. It is unfortunate that MSD was unwilling to work with Dr. Weitz before he had to take them to court. I would image that such a reason has less to do with integrity and more to do with the size of the gap differences in opinion. 

Again, I would like to hear to what differences between the MSD and yourself that you have worked out on behave of the people you represent. 

Best,

Donovan

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