[Vision2020] George W Told the Nation

Sun Jul 15 16:41:05 PDT 2007

Andreas,

  Sorry, but you are the one that lives in a fantasy world if you think that withdrawing US troops and handing the country to Iran, a nuclear superpower, is in our best interests. 

  I don't support Bush. But sending the troops back home doesn't eliminate the problem the and reality that millions will die if we do.

  Tell me Andreas, when US troops leave, and millions of innocent Kurds and Sunni families are slaughtered, are you going to demand the US go back over there and stop the slaughter? Are your going to feel good about the thousands of US troops that die retaking land we already shed blood for to stop the slaughter?

  Or do you just not care if the Middle East is run entirely by a brutal Iranian government that has zero tolerance for human rights?

  Andreas, it is you who are living in a fantasy world to think everything will be fine if we just plant a pretty garden and leave Iraq. 

  The sad thing is, we most likely will retreat from Iraq, and we can watch it unfold on the daily news. 

  Best,

  Donovan

Andreas Schou <ophite at gmail.com> wrote:
  Donovan --

We don't live in your fantasy world, where a competent leader has
command of an omnipotent military able to sacrifice what is necessary
to turn Iraq into a functional state. We happen to live in America,
where the most incompetent President of a generation leads a severely
weakened military amidst the ruins of Iraqi civil society. Your
fantasy situation, where we can do sufficient good to make up for our
inexcusable mistake, simply isn't going to occur.

The Iraqi people want us out. The American people want us out. The
Iraqi government says "we can leave at any time."

-- ACS

On 7/15/07, Donovan Arnold wrote:
> Johnny come marching lately.
>
> I think all the people that were originally for this war, placed our troops
> in harms way, then later changed their minds after thousands of troops died,
> and now don't want to not finish the mission, should be sent over there.
>
>
> I think it immoral to kill all those soldiers, start political instability
> in the middle east, murder millions of foreign civilians, and then say, "Oh
> well, never mind!"
>
> Those people that wanted to start and supported the start of this war need
> to finish it. If our troops withdraw millions of Iraqis, mostly Kurds and
> Sunnies, are going to die. Iraq will be governed from Iran. Oil will be in
> the hands of fewer, causing easily $4 to $5 a gallon. Iran will be a single
> superpower in the middle east, great wealth, and nuclear weapons.
>
> No, we have to stay now. We should have stayed out and went after UBL. But
> now we have to suffer like we made others suffer. The backstabbers that
> supported the war and troops in the beginning but now desert them should be
> the ones to go over there first. Staying is a bad choice for sure, but
> leaving is even worse. All the idiots that believed Bush and wanted war in
> the first place should be the idiots to be sacrificed over there.
>
> Best,
>
> Donovan
>
>
> Mark Solomon wrote:
> Thanks Tom. Tom Paxton has always been one of my favorites. I was
> absolutley thrilled when he played at WSU oh so many years ago.
>
> m.
>
> At 9:08 AM -0700 7/15/07, Tom Hansen wrote:
> >GEORGE W. TOLD THE NATION
> >By Tom Paxton
> >
> >http://www.tomandrodna.com/Songs/George_W_Told_The_Nation.mp3
> >
> >or
> >
> >http://tinyurl.com/3bjso5
> >
> >
> >"I got a letter from old George W.,
> >It said, "Son, I hate to trouble ya,
> >But this war of mine is going bad.
> >It's time for me to roll the dice;
> >I know you've already been there twice,
> >But I am sending you back to Baghdad."
> >
> >Chorus:
> >Hey! George W. told the nation,
> >"This is not an escalation;
> >This is just a surge toward victory.
> >Just to win my little war,
> >I'm sending 20,000 more,
> >To help me save Iraq from Iraqis.
> >
> >And, so, I made it to Iraq
> >In time for one more sneak attack,
> >And to my old battalion I was sent.
> >We drive around in our Humvees,
> >Listening to The Black-Eyed Peas
> >And speaking fondly of the president. (To Chorus)
> >
> >Celebrities all come to see us,
> >Grateful they don't have to be us,
> >Politicians show their best face card.
> >Where is Bubba? Where's our leader?
> >Where's our favorite lip reader?
> >AWOL from the Texas National Guard
> >
> >If you're hunkered in Fallujah
> >Wondering who it was who screwed ya,
> >Wondering what became of "Shock and Awe!"
> >
> >You are feeling semi-certain
> >It has to do with Halliburton,
> >Dick Cheney's why you drew that fatal straw."
> >
> >-----------------------------------
> >
> >Seeya round town, Moscow.
> >
> >Tom Hansen
> >Moscow, Idaho
> >
> >"Patriotism is not a short and frenzied outburst of emotion but the
> tranquil
> >and steady dedication of a lifetime."
> >
> >--Adlai E. Stevenson, Jr.
>
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