[Vision2020] AND THE BEAT GOES ON!

Matt Decker mattd2107 at hotmail.com
Sat Jul 14 10:36:56 PDT 2007


Ellen:)

Hey some of the best boxers I sparred with are girls. But off course I will 
not admit defeat:)

If I had girls I would absolutely have them get into boxing. In fact I feel 
girls/women should all do it for the self defense aspect of it.

Take care

Matt


>From: "Ellen Roskovich" <gussie443 at hotmail.com>
>To: mattd2107 at hotmail.com, jampot at adelphia.net, thansen at moscow.com,        
>privatejf32 at hotmail.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] AND THE BEAT GOES ON!
>Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 10:23:49 -0700
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>Matt. . . . Keep working out. . . punch the hell out of that bag and don't 
>forget the miles of leg work running every day.  Daily exercise was part of 
>my step dad's routine even in the nursing home.
>
>And while you're at it. . . make sure your girls have the very same 
>opportunities as your sons.
>
>Ellen A. Geffner (proud to be Al Geffner's daughter)
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>From:  "Matt Decker" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>
>To:  gussie443 at hotmail.com, jampot at adelphia.net, thansen at moscow.com, 
>privatejf32 at hotmail.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject:  Re: [Vision2020] AND THE BEAT GOES ON!
>Date:  Sat, 14 Jul 2007 10:06:01 -0700
> >Ellen,
> >
> >I understand you feelings about boxing. How it seems barbaric and
> >serves no purpose to society.
> >
> >Believe me though, boxing does a lot for many people, young and old.
> >With a nation of obesity, what better than a cardio session between
> >you and a partner or punching bag. These boxers are in the best
> >shape known to mankind. Boxing installs goals, grit, drive, and
> >determination. All of which can be very useful in the real world.
> >Many of the same traits included in
>other sports such as football,
> >baseball, golf and such.
> >
> >Not only that, but I would rather be confident that my boys could
> >defend themselves in those dreaded moments of self defense.
> >
> >Boxing is a useful sport. A sport that is person to person. But in
> >the end both parties shake hands and walk away. Taking those traits
> >with them.
> >
> >Take care
> >Matt
> >
> >
> >>From: "Ellen Roskovich" <gussie443 at hotmail.com>
> >>To: jampot at adelphia.net, thansen at moscow.com,
> >>privatejf32 at hotmail.com,        vision2020 at moscow.com
> >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] AND THE BEAT GOES ON!
> >>Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 22:55:33 -0700
> >>
> >>
> >>Gary. . . . you may call me Ellen.  Or, if you wish to be formal,
>
> >>it's Mrs. Roskovich.
> >>
> >>Boxing IS dangerous. . . and makes about as much sense as a cock
> >>fight.  It's not for kids.  As hard as I try, I cannot think of one
> >>positive life lesson a young person would learn from the
> >>experience.
> >>
> >>Ellen A. Roskovich
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>
> >>To: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>,"'Ellen Roskovich'"
> >><gussie443 at hotmail.com>,<privatejf32 at hotmail.com>,<vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] AND THE BEAT GOES ON!
> >>Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 20:40:27 -0700
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> >>According to Ms.
>Roscovich and Ms. Mix it's all about the "danger"
> >>and the "physical aggression." In what way do the pieces of paper
> >>that you refer to make the event different, more feminine?  Does
> >>the notion of men getting together to have a bit of fun with other
> >>men leave you feeling uncomfortable? Or is it really more about the
> >>who then anything having to do with the what?
> >>
> >>It is my understanding that the event happened under the tutelage
> >>of a retired professional boxer, that ABA approved headgear was
> >>worn by all participants, that absolutely no one was seriously
> >>injured (one punch was expertly blocked by the nose of one of the
> >>warriors but he lived to tell the tale and more importantly learned
> >>a valuable lesson in keeping his gloves up  and
>his chin down.) and
> >>that a good time was had by all. With all this in mind, what place
> >>is it of yours to piss on someone else's parade?
> >>
> >>g
> >>
> >>
> >>---- Original Message -----
> >>From: Tom Hansen
> >>To: 'g. crabtree' ; 'Ellen Roskovich' ; privatejf32 at hotmail.com ;
> >>vision2020 at moscow.com
> >>Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 6:11 PM
> >>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] AND THE BEAT GOES ON!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>g stated:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>“The combative sports (boxing, judo, karate, wrestling, etc.)
> >>result in far fewer injury's than football, rock climbing, skate
> >>boarding, mountain biking and skiing at the amateur level. Even
> >>cheer leading results in more emergency room visits! Would you
>have
> >>every "sport" that is potentially dangerous be eliminated from the
> >>extracurricular activities list?”
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>This may very well be true, g, among professionals and/or in a
> >>venue specifically designed for that sport with the requisite
> >>safety measures established and maintained, not at a school lacking
> >>the appropriate facilities and void of the aforementioned safety
> >>measures.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>In each of the “organized” activities you mention (boxing, judo,
> >>karate, wrestling, football, rock climbing, skate boarding,
> >>mountain biking, skiing, etc.), there are certain requirements
> >>(health, insurance, waivers, etc. etc.) that MUST be accomplished
> >>prior to any competitor engaging in their
>sport.  Based on a Viz
> >>discussion, concerning  the Logos School “smokers” (as they are
> >>called) a while back, it was painfully evident that NONE of these
> >>requirements was even considered, much less accomplished.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Seeya round town, Moscow.
> >>
> >>Tom Hansen
> >>Moscow, Idaho
> >>
> >>"We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The
> >>college students are not very active in local elections (thank
> >>goodness!)."
> >>
> >>- Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)
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