[Vision2020] AND THE BEAT GOES ON!

[g. crabtree]

Ellen,

I'm sorry about the misspelling and misapplied honorific.

 What is the valuable life lesson learned from skiing? More people are killed participating in that sport then are hurt boxing. Far more children are hurt and killed in swimming pools and trampolines, where is the value there?

Boxing teaches the same valuable lessons learned in any individual sport with the additional benefits of the self defense knowledge and self reliance.

Is it possible that your and Ms. Mix's contempt for the art stems from the sensibility shared by so many women that physical combat of any type is "icky" and to be avoided at any cost? Your objections seem to be based less on any actual facts regarding the sweet science and more on an emotional or visceral response common to your gender.

g
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ellen Roskovich 
  To: jampot at adelphia.net ; thansen at moscow.com ; privatejf32 at hotmail.com ; vision2020 at moscow.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 10:55 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] AND THE BEAT GOES ON!


  Gary. . . . you may call me Ellen.  Or, if you wish to be formal, it's Mrs. Roskovich.

  Boxing IS dangerous. . . and makes about as much sense as a cock fight.  It's not for kids.  As hard as I try, I cannot think of one positive life lesson a young person would learn from the experience.

  Ellen A. Roskovich




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    From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>
    To: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>,"'Ellen Roskovich'" <gussie443 at hotmail.com>,<privatejf32 at hotmail.com>,<vision2020 at moscow.com>
    Subject: Re: [Vision2020] AND THE BEAT GOES ON!
    Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 20:40:27 -0700




    According to Ms. Roscovich and Ms. Mix it's all about the "danger" and the "physical aggression." In what way do the pieces of paper that you refer to make the event different, more feminine?  Does the notion of men getting together to have a bit of fun with other men leave you feeling uncomfortable? Or is it really more about the who then anything having to do with the what?

    It is my understanding that the event happened under the tutelage of a retired professional boxer, that ABA approved headgear was worn by all participants, that absolutely no one was seriously injured (one punch was expertly blocked by the nose of one of the warriors but he lived to tell the tale and more importantly learned a valuable lesson in keeping his gloves up  and his chin down.) and that a good time was had by all. With all this in mind, what place is it of yours to piss on someone else's parade?

    g

      ---- Original Message ----- 
      From: Tom Hansen 
      To: 'g. crabtree' ; 'Ellen Roskovich' ; privatejf32 at hotmail.com ; vision2020 at moscow.com 
      Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 6:11 PM
      Subject: RE: [Vision2020] AND THE BEAT GOES ON!


      g stated:



      "The combative sports (boxing, judo, karate, wrestling, etc.) result in far fewer injury's than football, rock climbing, skate boarding, mountain biking and skiing at the amateur level. Even cheer leading results in more emergency room visits! Would you have every "sport" that is potentially dangerous be eliminated from the extracurricular activities list?"



      This may very well be true, g, among professionals and/or in a venue specifically designed for that sport with the requisite safety measures established and maintained, not at a school lacking the appropriate facilities and void of the aforementioned safety measures.



      In each of the "organized" activities you mention (boxing, judo, karate, wrestling, football, rock climbing, skate boarding, mountain biking, skiing, etc.), there are certain requirements (health, insurance, waivers, etc. etc.) that MUST be accomplished prior to any competitor engaging in their sport.  Based on a Viz discussion, concerning  the Logos School "smokers" (as they are called) a while back, it was painfully evident that NONE of these requirements was even considered, much less accomplished.



        Seeya round town, Moscow.

        Tom Hansen
        Moscow, Idaho

        "We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The college students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."

        - Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007) 





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