[Vision2020] Women in Authority and Leadership!

pkraut at moscow.com pkraut at moscow.com
Fri Jul 13 12:59:07 PDT 2007


Perhaps instead of gossiping you should talk to her?? God will defend and 
fight for my church and I do not have to say anything. May He have mercy 
on us.



> Right.........
> 
> And your church has certainly shown the spirit of Love in the past few 
> years.  Certainly, since Pastor Dave left.
> 
> Remind me how many pastors have you gone through in the last 6 or 7 
years?  
> I just wonder if Connie feels the love....
> 
> 
> J  :]
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> >From: "Pat Kraut" <pkraut at moscow.com>
> >To: "vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Women in Authority and Leadership!
> >Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:53:55 -0700
> >
> >The thing is that parents are not reading this site because of the 
hatred
> >expressed by you and others...they are working hard trying to make a 
living
> >in a city where there are not that many jobs. And just so you know and 
> >don't
> >give out false info...I have 8 grandchildren. Two are in Egypt, two in 
Twin
> >Falls and 4 in Walla Walla and I am sure that their parents work very 
hard
> >trying to teach them how to get along in this world and in the middle 
east.
> >What they and others do not need is someone with a personal vendetta who
> >posts info on an obscure web site to get even with someone else. Your 
> >hatred
> >of Doug Wilson colors your life and by extension this site and I am not 
> >sure
> >you care about any children just getting even with CC is good enough for
> >you. It is a wonder you are not sued but then there would be a bigger
> >audience and now it is only on this site...which many avoid because of 
you
> >and those others who only want to produce hatred...all in the name of 
God 
> >of
> >course.
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
> >To: <pkraut at moscow.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 10:17 PM
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Women in Authority and Leadership!
> >
> >
> >What, are you nuts!?
> >
> >Don't answer that.  That answer is obvious.
> >
> >He's trying to get better?!  What part of "parole violation in less 
than 
> >one
> >month's time of release" don't you get, you git?
> >
> >Sheesh!  And you with 4 grandchildren.  Get-A-Long with your bad, bad
> >self!!!!
> >
> >Part of the issue that Moscow is facing is the "let's hide our head in 
the
> >sand for a few years and hope it goes away" kinda attitude exhibited by 
> >such
> >you.
> >
> >OMG!!!
> >
> >J  :]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Pat Kraut" <pkraut at moscow.com>
> > >To: "vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Women in Authority and Leadership!
> > >Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:09:51 -0700
> > >
> > >I could not agree more...this has nothing to do with what Moscow will 
be
> > >like in some grand and glorious future. Some of you should develope 
some
> > >new
> > >site that you can carry on with your personal agendas and let this 
site
> > >remain a hopeful new Moscow. I agree that the witch hunts some of you 
are
> > >on
> > >are way out of order. If JFord and others do not want to live near a 
sex
> > >offender they can keep track for themselves. I do not need nor want a 
> >blow
> > >by blow about someones life who may very well be trying to get 
> >better...but
> > >mercy isn't one of the strong suits of many on this site. Please, 
Please
> > >can
> > >we move on to something that is actually about this city as a whole??
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Matt Decker" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>
> > >To: <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > >Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 9:52 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Women in Authority and Leadership!
> > >
> > >
> > >J, Tom, Doug, and all else dealing with this matter,
> > >
> > >Can you PLEASE, no pretty please, take this elsewhere. This 
conversation
> > >between all of you has and will NEVER get anywhere. Not only this 
topic 
> >but
> > >all that deal with the cult/church/boarders or whatever you must call 
it. 
> >I
> > >know some of you have nothing else to do, but I get tired of deleting 
50
> > >posts a day dealing with Doug or whomever else that have their own
> > >opinions,
> > >however drastic you might feel.
> > >
> > >I do feel this blog has great potential but the few bad apples not
> > >mentioning names here( J ford Donovan) oops sorry I did it, ruin this 
> >site.
> > >
> > >Please stop, or better yet take it somewhere else.
> > >
> > >Thanks
> > >
> > >Matt
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
> > > >To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Women in Authority and Leadership!
> > > >Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:16:08 -0700
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >"You tell me all of your areas of experience and
> > > >knowledge and I will do the same"
> > > >
> > > >THAT is going to be one flipping short list on your side, there 
Doug.
> > > >Tom's
> > > >list, however, will be lengthy and you may need permission from
> > >Dougie-Boy
> > > >to stay up that late as well as to read that thick of a document.  
> >Well,
> > >ok
> > > >- so you may need one of the boysfromthesportzhood to help you read 
the
> > >big
> > > >words, too.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >J  :]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> > > > >To: <heirdoug at netscape.net>, <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > > > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Women in Authority and Leadership!
> > > > >Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 18:06:34 -0700
> > > > >
> > > > >No deal, No-Clue.
> > > > >
> > > > >With Trinity Fest 2007 coming up in August, and oh very much to 
post, 
> >I
> > > > >simply cannot abide by your suggested modifications to our "deal".
> > > > >
> > > > >And what with Sitler's hearing coming up on July 20th . . .
> > > > >
> > > > >I will simply have to expand the web directories.
> > > > >
> > > > >Stay tuned, Visionaires.
> > > > >
> > > > >Tom Hansen
> > > > >Moscow, Idaho
> > > > >
> > > > >"I'll just speak for our church, in Christ Church.  If I found 
out 
> >that
> > >a
> > > > >member of our church or a church officer was lying to non-
believers 
> >in
> > > >the
> > > > >community, as a way to get by or protect themself or protect his
> > > > >reputation,
> > > > >yes, he'd be disciplined."
> > > > >
> > > > >- Doug Wilson (January 31, 2007)
> > > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >From: heirdoug at netscape.net [mailto:heirdoug at netscape.net]
> > > > >Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 5:35 PM
> > > > >To: thansen at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Women in Authority and Leadership!
> > > > >
> > > > >So Tom-Tom,
> > > > >
> > > > >The criteria for posting on Vision 2020 is now personal first hand
> > > > >experience and knowledge. I like it. I agree!
> > > > >
> > > > >  From now on out I will not talk about what the barracks are 
like or
> > >the
> > > > >food or the companionship in military life and you can only talk 
> >about
> > > > >computers, army life, picture taking and your wife.
> > > > >
> > > > >You may not post any further on anything Christ Church, Doug 
Wilson,
> > > > >Pedifilia or The Presidency. Seeing as how you do not have 
personal
> > > > >first hand experience or knowledge with any of these areas. 
Unless 
> >your
> > > > >not telling us something.
> > > > >
> > > > >But a deal is a deal! You tell me all of your areas of experience 
and
> > > > >knowledge and I will do the same.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >lemeno, Doug!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >
> > > > >From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
> > > > >
> > > > >To: heirdoug at netscape.net; vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > > >
> > > > >Sent: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:52 am
> > > > >
> > > > >Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Women in Authority and Leadership!
> > > > >
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> > > > >Sounds cool to me, No-Clue.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Here's an offer.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >If you cease being judgmental on aspects concerning the military, 
as
> > >you
> > > > >
> > > > >(and "Hat Rack" Iverson) lack any experience or knowledge 
concerning
> > > > >life in
> > > > >
> > > > >uniform, I will not be critical of police volunteers.  Deal?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Seeya round town, Moscow.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Tom Hansen
> > > > >
> > > > >Moscow, Idaho
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >"We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The 
> >college
> > > > >
> > > > >students are not very active in local elections (thank 
goodness!)."
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >- Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)
> > > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >
> > > > >From: heirdoug at netscape.net [mailto:heirdoug at netscape.net]
> > > > >
> > > > >Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 11:44 AM
> > > > >
> > > > >To: thansen at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > > >
> > > > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Women in Authority and Leadership!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Tom,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >You outed me from my closet of military disgrace. I have never 
served
> > > > >
> > > > >in any military capacity. I do have a commendation from Chief of 
> >Police
> > > > >
> > > > >of Taos, NM for services rendered. But beyond that my only 
> >opportunity
> > > > >
> > > > >was to pass the AFOQT test with the highest score possible in two 
of
> > > > >
> > > > >the 5 areas.(above average in the other three)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >After impressing the base commander with my scores he said that 
they
> > > > >
> > > > >could not use my skills because they were winding down on 
recruitment 
> >-
> > > > >
> > > > >1975 post Vietnam war. I guess I didn't join up because they had 
too
> > > > >
> > > > >many exceptional officers already.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Timing is everything and it wasn't my time. I still volunteer with
> > > > >
> > > > >various Police organizations and serve the community that way. I 
also
> > > > >
> > > > >volunteer with a local Scout troop. But aside from all of that I 
send
> > > > >
> > > > >an occasional care package to various military service 
organizations.
> > > > >
> > > > >And I give Blood. I'm up to 5 1/2 gallons.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >I hope this helps your "background" check into my history.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Cheers, Doug!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > >Question for No-Clue:  What have you done for our country?
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