[Vision2020] Women in Authority and Leadership!

J Ford privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Wed Jul 11 13:29:01 PDT 2007


Shut up, you big phups!

Can't you be in a discussion that doesn't hit the basement with stupid, 
adolescent crap such as the below?

Never mind - you keep proving you can't.

J  :]





>From: heirdoug at netscape.net
>To: ngier at uidaho.edu
>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Women in Authority and Leadership!
>Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:51:06 -0400
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>Yes Nick, David and Solomon had concubines. Is that what you equate
>your live in girlfriend to, a concubine?
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>From: Nick Gier <ngier at uidaho.edu>
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>To: heirdoug at netscape.net
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>Sent: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:20 am
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>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Women in Authority and Leadership!
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>Were Abe and Sarah "protecting and caring for their wives" when
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>Sarah forced her hen-pecked husband to send Hagar and Ishmael out in the
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>desert to die?  And didn't good ole Abe and many other Hebrew
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>patriarchs not take advantage of slave women?  And how many
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>Certainly more than I could ever afford!
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>For every abomination in the contemporary world, we could easily find
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>t 08:15 AM 7/11/2007, you wrote:
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>Thanks Nick for voicing your
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>opinion. It also should be noted that the Men of Israel were protecting
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>taking advantage of their live-in with girlfriends!
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>Doug!
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>From: Nick Gier <ngier at uidaho.edu>
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>To: heirdoug at netscape.net
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>Sent: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 8:54 am
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>I'm glad that Heirdoug mentioned that God led the great men of
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>Israel
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>into battle, and all they had to do was clean up after the divine
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>Now, that's what I would call a real sissified military culture,
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>where Israel men of the chest were not able to win their own
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>battles.  At the battle for Jericho, all these he-men had to do
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>march around the city and blow some horns and the Lord God did all
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>the heavy work for them.  Let's all encourage our brave young men
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>put away their AK-47s and practice their instruments for the Marine
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>Band!
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>I now ask Ed the Viking:  What is the difference between this and
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>warriors in Numbers 31?  He came to Moses and told him that he
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>girls were to be saved for the Israelite Wrights and Sitlers.
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>For some scholarly reading on the subject please see Millard Lind's
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