[Vision2020] Women in Authority and Leadership!

[heirdoug at netscape.net]

Yes Nick, David and Solomon had concubines. Is that what you equate 
your live in girlfriend to, a concubine?



Doug



-----Original Message-----

From: Nick Gier <ngier at uidaho.edu>

To: heirdoug at netscape.net

Sent: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:20 am

Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Women in Authority and Leadership!























Greetings:





Were Abe and Sarah "protecting and caring for their wives" when

Sarah forced her hen-pecked husband to send Hagar and Ishmael out in the

desert to die?  And didn't good ole Abe and many other Hebrew

patriarchs not take advantage of slave women?  And how many

"live-in girlfriends" did Solomon and David have?

Certainly more than I could ever afford!





For every abomination in the contemporary world, we could easily find 
ten

to match in the Holy Scriptures of the world.





Nick Gier





t 08:15 AM 7/11/2007, you wrote:





Thanks Nick for voicing your

opinion. It also should be noted that the Men of Israel were protecting

and caring for their wives and not just getting their own needs met and

taking advantage of their live-in with girlfriends!











Doug!









-----Original Message-----





From: Nick Gier <ngier at uidaho.edu>





To: heirdoug at netscape.net





Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com





Sent: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 8:54 am





Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Women in Authority and Leadership!





Greetings:





I'm glad that Heirdoug mentioned that God led the great men of

Israel



into battle, and all they had to do was clean up after the divine



warrior and his heavenly host (=army).





Now, that's what I would call a real sissified military culture,



where Israel men of the chest were not able to win their own



battles.  At the battle for Jericho, all these he-men had to do

was



march around the city and blow some horns and the Lord God did all



the heavy work for them.  Let's all encourage our brave young men

to



put away their AK-47s and practice their instruments for the Marine 
Corps

Band!





I now ask Ed the Viking:  What is the difference between this and

our



boys playing soccer with the Iraqis and rebuilding their



schools?  One difference I see is that the civilian causalities

are



far less and we have at least a chance at winning some hearts and



minds.  When Yahweh was finished with Israel's enemies, there were

no



hearts and minds left.







Remember when Moses came back after a fair fight with the Midianite



warriors in Numbers 31?  He came to Moses and told him that he

had



forgot to kill all the old men, women, and boys.  Only the

virgin



girls were to be saved for the Israelite Wrights and Sitlers.





For some scholarly reading on the subject please see Millard Lind's



"Yahweh is a Warrior: The Theology of Warfare in Ancient

Israel."





Nick Gier





At 06:38 AM 7/11/2007, you wrote:




























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