[Vision2020] "Murder" rate in Moscow

[Ted Moffett]

Debbie  et. al.

So from the information you offered it appears possible for a police
investigation to classify a homicide as a murder or nonnegligent
manslaughter, ruling out self defense (justifiable homicide), suicide,
negligence or accident, or an attempt or assault to murder, all
circumstances that would rule out this "offense classification," then even
if a court rules the death accidental, for example, this is ignored for the
purposes of the UCR?

This statement appears to suggest this is possible:

"The classification of this offense is based solely on
police investigation as opposed to the determination
of a court, medical examiner, coroner, jury, or other
judicial body."

Ted Moffett

On 7/8/07, Debbie Gray <graylex at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> From the FBI's Crime in the United States 2005
> (http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/05cius/ )
>
> The Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program defines
> murder and nonnegligent manslaughter as the willful
> (nonnegligent) killing of one human being by another.
> The classification of this offense is based solely on
> police investigation as opposed to the determination
> of a court, medical examiner, coroner, jury, or other
> judicial body. The UCR Program does not include the
> following situations in this offense classification:
> deaths caused by negligence, suicide, or accident;
> justifiable homicides; and attempts to murder or
> assaults to murder, which are scored as aggravated
> assaults.
>
> --- Ted Moffett < starbliss at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 7/7/07, Don Coombs <mushroom at moscow.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Please remember, though, that all murders are
> > killings,
> > > but not all killings are murders. We depend on the
> > > judicial system to determine if a killing is
> > murder.
> > >
> > > Don Coombs
> >
> >
> > So the "alleged" (what a difference this word makes)
> > murders in Troy, by
> > Delling, and in or near Genesee, should not
> > technically be counted yet in an
> > estimate of Latah County's 2007 murder rate, given
> > the judicial system has
> > not ruled on these cases.  But given that Hamilton
> > will never stand trial,
> > and the facts of the case on his commission of those
> > crimes appear solid,
> > can we call the three homicides' victims (not
> > counting his suicide) of
> > "murder?"  It sure seems so, though the judicial
> > system has not ruled on
> > this issue, or have they?
> >
> > I wonder if murder rates only include first and
> > second degree murder?  What
> > about voluntary manslaughter?  It seems that
> > involuntary manslaughter would
> > not be included, nor homicide in self defense.
> >
> > Ted Moffett
> > >
>
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