[Vision2020] Breaking News: Judge Does Not Dismiss theMSDLawsuit

J Ford privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Sat Jul 7 13:47:49 PDT 2007


Knowing Dr. D as well as I do and know the school district personnel as well 
as I do - they would NEVER do that unless and/or until the public demanded 
they do so.  Which I do not see happening.


J  :]





>From: "Bill London" <london at moscow.com>
>To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>,        "Sue Hovey" 
><suehovey at moscow.com>, <vision2020 at moscow.com>,        "keely emerinemix" 
><kjajmix1 at msn.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Breaking News: Judge Does Not Dismiss 
>theMSDLawsuit
>Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 12:41:23 -0700
>
>Can the Moscow School District really overturn the results of the recent 
>levy election?
>Would it be legal for the district officials to overthrow the vote of the 
>district patrons?
>I voted in favor of the levy, and I do not want the district officials to 
>toss out that vote.
>BL
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Donovan Arnold
>   To: Sue Hovey ; vision2020 at moscow.com ; keely emerinemix
>   Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 8:56 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Breaking News: Judge Does Not Dismiss the 
>MSDLawsuit
>
>
>   Sue,
>
>   I think that it was a victory for the people of Moscow because standing 
>is hard to obtain as a private citizen against the government. In fact, I 
>think it was the hardest segment of this case. To me, and I think most 
>reasonable people, it would seem unfair for the MSD to be able to get a 2/3 
>vote in 1992 and not have to take another vote till 2992. There should be a 
>limit on how long that vote on tax collection can last. I think every 2-8 
>years a new vote should be taken. I am willing to bet any reasonable judge 
>will agree.
>
>   So this is a big win, because it assures that MSD will likely lose based 
>on the current law and the reasonable assumption that judges will believe 
>there is some type of limit on how long a school district can go before 
>having to seek a 2/3 voter approval for tax collection.
>
>   This forces MSD to go to voters, or lose everything. The unfortunate 
>question here is, will MSD administrators rather lose everything or face 
>the voters? I fear that they will not take another vote, they will just let 
>the system go down. I also fear that these recent cuts will not be made 
>fairly and logically but based on personal, political and incompetent 
>decisions of the current MSD administration. Fact is cuts can be made 
>without hurting academic education. However, I think MSD administrators 
>will be sure to make the cuts so they do hurt the children academically as 
>much as possible for political reasons in an vengeful attempt to try and 
>get public support to increase their fat salaries and wasteful government 
>spending habits.
>
>   In either case, I believe if MSD administrators actually made a good 
>decision regarding this case for what is in the best interests of students, 
>it would be a first for them in long time.
>
>   Best,
>
>   Donovan
>
>   Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com> wrote:
>     I went to the hearing yesterday, and came out satisfied.  All along 
>the lawyers I had talked with said Weitz had standing and they did not 
>think the judge would rule any other way. There was speculation that any 
>other ruling would simply have meant Weitz would appeal and very likely 
>been sustained on appeal.  That would have taken lots of time.  It really 
>isn't Weitz 1 and MSD 0.  The tenor of the hearing and Judge Bradbury's 
>explanation seemed reasonable to me, even though I was hoping for the other 
>outcome, too. Additionally, the summary judgement coming up in August could 
>be the end of it.
>
>     Donovan, I am a bit surprised you are so elated.  If you had been at 
>the hearing I believe you might not have felt it was a win for Weitz, just 
>a declaration he has the standing to continue.  The judge made it very 
>clear several times he was not speaking to the merit of the suit, only to 
>the issue of standing.  It will be he who deals with the summary judgement 
>in August.  I think the resolution will come on that day.  That seemed to 
>be the judge's intent.
>
>     One item of interst to me:  the Pocatello lawyer hired by Weitz seems 
>to make suits against school districts and cities one of his major efforts. 
>  He was quite articulate and referred several times to suits such as these 
>which he had been involved in.  Made several of us wonder if his fees might 
>be underwritten by some out-of-state anti tax group.  Weitz' local lawyer, 
>Brian Thie, never said a word, although Bradbury gave him the opportunity.
>
>     Anyway, on to the August hearing.  Cuts have been made in academic 
>programs and I think they plan to increase the fees for participation in 
>sports and other activities, so from his perspective I'm sure Weitz feels 
>happy about this impact for which he can take all the credit.
>
>     Sue H.
>       ----- Original Message -----
>       From: keely emerinemix
>       To: heirdoug at netscape.net ; vision2020 at moscow.com
>       Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 3:58 PM
>       Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Breaking News: Judge Does Not Dismiss the 
>MSD Lawsuit
>
>
>       Doug writes, "Well, what do you know?" at the news that Judge 
>Bradbury has determined that Jerry Weitz has legal standing to continue his 
>suit against MSD.  Snarkiness is presumed.
>
>       Well, Doug, here's what I know:  This is not the ruling I would have 
>liked, but it means just what it means.  That is . . . Weitz has legal 
>standing to continue his suit.  That's all.  It doesn't mean that the suit 
>itself has merit, and it doesn't mean that Weitz was acting in the best 
>interest of his community.  And I know this, Doug:  The judge can rule on 
>the former, but not on the latter.  And you are unqualified to judge on 
>either.
>
>       Now, I'm also not qualified. But from what I know -- likely a bit 
>more than you do -- I think the suit operates on a faulty premise and is 
>insincere in its execution and intent, but I'm willing to let the court 
>judge 'til the end.  THE END, Doug, THE END.  This isn't it.
>
>       keely
>
>
>
>       "And these women that you spit on as they try to change their 
>worlds/
>       Are immune to your consultations . . . they're quite aware of what 
>they're going through"
>       (With apologies to David Bowie)
>
>
>       > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>       > Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:25:58 -0400
>       > From: heirdoug at netscape.net
>       > Subject: [Vision2020] Breaking News: Judge Does Not Dismiss the 
>MSD Lawsuit
>       >
>       >
>       >
>       > Second District Judge John Bradbury determined that Jerry Weitz 
>does
>       > have standing to bring the lawsuit against Moscow School District. 
>The
>       > judge did not dismiss the case, as MSD requested.
>       >
>       >
>       >
>       > Published Friday, June 29, 2007 1:59 PM by Right-Mind
>       >
>       >
>       >
>       >
>       >
>       > Well what do you know, Moscow.
>       >
>       >
>       > 
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