[Vision2020] But she couldn't serve on the Logos School Board

Thu Jul 5 22:43:20 PDT 2007

Let us not also forget women cannot be priests in the Catholic Church, join the Boy Scouts, fly in combat, or play in the NFL. What gives? But at least we will probably have a woman president in the next few years. 

  Best,

  Donovan

Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com> wrote:
    P {   PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px  }  BODY {   FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma  }        And on a fairly contemporary note, growing up S. Baptist one of my recollections is the two yearly mission offerings in honor of SB missionaries Lottie Moon and Annie Armstrong, neither of whom would have been eligible to hold church office, be elected a deacon, or pastor our churches.  Well of course, beginning 2 or 3 years ago, as women they wouldn't even be eligible to be Southern Baptist missionaries.  

  I love the story my mother in law used to tell about her years of work as a deacon in a Baptist church in Kooskia.  They eventually called a pastor who informed women that women deacons weren't bibilical--interesting to note that he skipped a few verses--but that she would be asked to coordinate the monthly dinners for the male deacons.  She replied that she really didn't mind being a dish towel occasionally, but just once in a while she'd like to be a tablecloth.  

  And on another, but somewhat related subject regarding religious strictures placed on women, you might want to include in your light reading--I call it light inasmuch as so many of you read philosophical and epistemological tomes for pleasure--A Thousand Splendid Suns, which is every bit as good as The Kite Runner.   

  Sue
    ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: keely emerinemix 
  To: Art Deco ; Vision 2020 
  Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 10:43 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] But she couldn't serve on the Logos School Board

Very timely, Wayne, and very much on target.

Maybe even more ironic, at least to me, is that the women named in Romans 16 of the New Testament wouldn't have been able to assume the positions they did in the early church if the early Christian church were run by Wilson, et al.

That means Phoebe wouldn't be a deacon.  Junia wouldn't be an apostle (that foaming-at-the-mouth feminist and early church father, John Chrysostom, acknowledged her apostleship, as do most scholars).  Priscilla (usually listed before her husband, Aquila), wouldn't be an authoritative teacher of the male evangelist, Apollos; Tryphena and Tryphosa wouldn't, as the Greek says, be "fervent workers" in advancing the Gospel.  Elsewhere in Romans, and throughout the New Testament, Lydia would not be an independent merchant and patron/benefactor (prostasis) of the church in her home.  Neither would Chloe.  The women at the tomb who first witnessed Christ's resurrection would have been told to relay the information to their husbands first, Joanna wouldn't be following the apostles and supporting them out of her own funds, and Mary wouldn't have given up folding her vast collection of floral table linens to sit at the feet of the Rabbi Jesus (a position of scholastic submission and
 inquiry thought appropriate only for men).  And Phillip's seven prophesying daughters wouldn't be, well, prophesying, or delivering Spirit-led teaching and exhortation to the church.

Thankfully, though, their efforts to spread the Gospel kept them from usurping their husbands' positions on whatever passed as a school board in the first century, and Christian homes were known as places where, persecution be damned, the table linens, dishes, and decor were always simply stunning for Sabbath dinner.  

keely

"And these women that you spit on as they try to change their worlds/
Are immune to your consultations . . . they're quite aware of what they're going through"
(With apologies to David Bowie)

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  From: deco at moscow.com
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 10:25:01 -0700
Subject: [Vision2020] But she couldn't serve on the Logos School Board

  Japan's First Female Defense Minister Assumes Post

July 4, 2007 10:15 p.m. EST

  Christopher Rizo - AHN Staff Writer
Tokyo, Japan (AHN)-Japan installed its first female defense minister Wednesday after her predecessor resigned for remarks he made appearing to condone the 1945 U.S. atomic bombings of Nagasaki and Hiroshima. 
Yuriko Koike, a former national security adviser to Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, vowed to strengthen Japan's military alliance with the U.S. and to work to improve conditions for women in the Self-Defense Forces, as the Japanese military is known. 
"The security environment surrounding our nation remains serious, especially after North Korea's ballistic missile launches and its nuclear experiment," the 54-year-old Koike said in her inauguration speech, according to The Daily Times. 
Koike, a former television newscaster, is a Cairo University graduate, is fluent in Arabic and known widely as an expert on the Middle East and Islam. 
She was first elected to parliament in 1992, hopping between small political parties before joining the ruling Liberal Democratic Party in 2002. She supported former Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi's decision to send troops to Iraq.

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