[Vision2020] Do the Math

Sun Jan 21 09:20:53 PST 2007

SOME programs or sites only refresh when there is a need to such as when, in 
this case, Dale publishes another "article" on his site.  This would and 
does account for the differing times that it shows anyone entering that 
site.  Again, Dale KNOWS this and should be "man" enough to note that 
instead of trying to instigate something.

Yeah, I know - he's just so darn good at it, though!

J  :]

>From: "david sarff" <davesway at hotmail.com>
>To: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com, godshatter at yahoo.com, 
>vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Do the Math
>Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 10:30:39 +0000
>
>
>Dale’s info is suspect. Tom is acting coy.
>No way Tom can waste the level of cash that Dale insinuates and not caught 
>hell by now.
>Unless Dale can present a clean accusation. There is nothing to this story 
>.
>Dave
>
>
>>Paul,
>>
>>   Your automatic refresh theory is a good one. Unfortunately, if it did, 
>>the log would show a refreshing of the page every 5, 10, 15, 30, 60, etc. 
>>minutes. The log shows random times, not every exact few minutes from the 
>>original log in.
>>
>>   I doubt someone would keep the page open intentionally all day 
>>everyday, and manually hit refresh randomly throughout the day. Even if 
>>someone did,  it would indicate a constant monitoring of the blog rather 
>>than working. Why keep refreshing a page you are not watching? 30,000+ 
>>file accesses is excessive, I know, that is why it was brought up. I know 
>>most people surf the net at work once in a while, but this a serious abuse 
>>of the privilege, IMHO.
>>
>>   Thanks for the alternative theory though.
>>
>>   Donovan
>>
>>Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>   Donovan Arnold wrote:
>>
>> > Dale did not say Tom visited his blog 31,000 times. Dale said his
>> > computer accessed 31,000 files in the last year. There is a
>> > difference. Each time you visit a site, one to ten files can open up
>> > at the same time. A photo for example can count as one file. It is
>> > easy to determine the number of visits by looking at the time of the
>> > access. If you have have 2 files accessed at the same time, that would
>> > be one visit.
>> >
>> > Someone on that computer visits the Dale's Blog several times most
>> > days of the week, as many as twenty or thirty times in a seven hour
>> > period between 7:30 am and 2:30 pm.
>> >
>> > How can access that many files? Let's do that math;
>> >
>> > 20 visits a day, 5 times a week equals 100 visits a week. If each
>> > visit opened 7 files (including photos and graphs) that would be 700
>> > files opened in one week, over 46 weeks of work in the year, that
>> > would equals 32,200 accesses.
>> >
>> > This pretty much is the habit of logging in to Dale's blog from that
>> > IP address if you look at the log of the file as I have.
>> >
>> > If a person were to spend their entire six hour shift monitoring a
>> > Blog, they could hit a site 20 times in a day.
>> >
>> > What is the point of this? The point is that someone on the taxpayer's
>> > dime is monitoring a non related site, and is doing so against UI
>> > policy. May I remind people also, that this is just one website being
>> > accessed by that computer. Is it possible this same computer is going
>> > to other sites as well during the day on the taxpayer's dime?
>> >
>> > I as a taxpayer, don't want to be paying someone to monitor Dale's
>> > Blog. What a waste of UI resources.
>> >
>> > Donovan
>>
>>
>>If he simply loads the page, looks for a new blog entry, and leaves his
>>browser open, then it's not that bad. He just hits "refresh" every so
>>often, possibly between doing other things. Just refresh, read a new
>>comment or two, then come back to it in a half-hour or so. It's also
>>possible he's using RSS feeds if the blog provides them, so it's not
>>necessarily clear that he is even reading them at the times they are
>>accessed. His RSS reader might be configured to check for new content
>>on a regular interval.
>>
>>If he is spending a significant amount of time reading the blog 20 times
>>a day every day instead of doing his work, then you may have a point.
>>But let's not jump to conclusions just yet.
>>
>>Paul
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