[Vision2020] FW: Moscow Ice Rink
mark seman
baukunst at moscow.com
Fri Jan 19 02:21:23 PST 2007
I don't know if it's apathy, ignorance of unwillingness. The Rotary
Pavillion (ice rink) and LHS have been known to need help for years. What
are the citizens of Moscow & Latah County to do? Are they to be pro-active
to save and expand upon what they have, or do they just not know what's
going on, or maybe they just don't want it. I know it's all three, actually
there's a fourth - those that tried to help. A lot of effort has gone into
these Places. I hope the scales tip positively and people don't give up.
Maybe it's just not the right time, and discussions in the near future will
help determine that. Maybe use funds from the John Dickinson Philanthropic
Fund for Sustainablity.
Mark
mark r. seman, architect
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From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
[mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]On Behalf Of Tom Ivie
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 9:58 PM
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] FW: Moscow Ice Rink
I think that the city has been more than fair in regards to the ice rink
SUP. They have given the county numerous opportunities to rectify the
violation. The county, to my knowledge, hasn't ever offered to meet with
city officials to discuss an amicable resolution. The city is the one that
has come forward and taken the initiative. The city could have acted sooner
on the violation,legally as soon as the violation occurred in Oct. This
recent cease and desist order was pretty generous also. They gave the
county until the 25th to work something out when they could have shut the
rink down right then and there (they gave them a stay of execution). This
gives the city time to work something out with the county. I am confident
that the Mayor and City Council are doing the right thing here and
optimistic that an agreement will be made before the 25th deadline. I don't
believe that the Mayor or anyone on City Council wants to shut down the
rink. At least it didn't sound like it as I watched the council meeting
Tuesday night. I am sure it did not make Joel Plaskon's job rewarding to
have to point out that the violation was there or Randy Fife's day to
finally have to enforce the terms of the SUP.
Jerry Weitz <gweitz at moscow.com> wrote:
As one of the folks involved in the founding of the ice rink, I am not
surprised with this city's government. The same thing was done to the Alt.
School and its defense cost a little over $12,000 in a Neighorhood Business
Zone. The city's action against the Alt. School was is violation of state
and federal law. I believe that you will find the 1912 (without safe
sidewalks) is in violation of city code, but that does not seem to matter (I
am a supporter of the 1912). Sometimes looking past a minor detail at
certain junctures is the best for the common good. The county is not flush
with money. I believe it is time for a significant change in city
government.
Jerry
At 11:13 AM 1/18/07, Tom Ivie wrote:
I am sure that the first inclination is to be upset with the city
because they are the enforcer. Take a step back and analyze the situation
though. The rink folks are caught in the middle for sure. The city has to
enforce the violated SUP. The conditions of the SUP were agreed to by both
the city and county. It is up to the county to comply with those
conditions. The county knew that non-compliance means violating the SUP and
what the consequences of that is. The county has known for some time now
that the city would have to do this and they should have been doing
something, anything (setup a meeting, etc.) to try and rectify the
situation. unfortunately, it is the ice rink (a third party) that will feel
any reprocussions from the situation. I believe it is a bump in the road,
though, and not the demise of the ice rink. It looks like the city is
trying to move forward and work with the county to resolve the situation as
soon as possible. This is evident by the city setting up a meeting with the
county commissioners on the matter. I am sure there are a whole lot of "not
happy" ice rink users right now and they have good reason to be upset.
Chris Storhok <cstorhok at co.fairbanks.ak.us> wrote:
Visionaries,
My question to all of you is how in the heck does this happen:
>
>
> BREAKING NEWS UPDATE: Moscow issues cease-and-desist order for ice
rink
> County has until Jan. 25 to reach agreement on use permit
>
> Staff report
>
> Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - Page Updated at 05:41:27 PM
>
> The city of Moscow has issued a cease-and-desist order for the
Moscow
> Rotary Veteran's Memorial Pavilion ice rink at the Latah County
> Fairgrounds.
>
> A letter signed by City Attorney Randy Fife outlining the order
was
> presented to county commissioners during their Wednesday meeting.
>
> The ice rink will be forced to close Jan. 25 at 5 p.m. unless
county
> commissioners can reach an agreement with the city. Commissioners
have
> scheduled a public meeting for 2:30 p.m. Friday to discuss the
situation.
>
> The city recently notified Latah County it was in violation of its
special
> use permit to operate the ice rink and the Latah County
Fairgrounds
because
> it had not defined its parking area around the facility and failed
to
pave
> the rink's parking lot by the specified date.
>
> The ice rink operates under a special use permit in the R3, or
duplex
zone.
>
> The county had until Sept. 30 to complete the paving project under
> stipulations of the special use permit it signed in October 2005.
>
> The county has sought permanent status for the fairgrounds for
years.
Every
> two to five years it must reapply for a special use permit to keep
the
> grounds open.
>
> The county has put down more gravel in the parking lot and plans
to
install
> parking bumpers to show the city it is serious about meeting the
special
> use permit requirements.
>
> Moscow Mayor Nancy Chaney said Fife signed the cease-and-desist
order
> Wednesday afternoon.
>
> "I think it's in keeping with enforcing the city's laws. It did
not
slam
> the door for possibilities of the ice rink," she said. "This is a
wake-up
> call and I hope for the best."
>
> Chaney said the previous warnings had not resulted in compliance
by
the
> county.
>
> "I am hopeful that a workable, mutually agreeable solution may be
the
end
> result," she said.
>
> The City Council voted 3-2 Tuesday to try to organize a meeting
with
Latah
> County and Palouse Ice Rink Association officials to work toward a
> solution.
>
> Chaney said the meeting is still being planned, but a time has not
been
> set.
>
> County commissioners Jack Nelson and Tom Stroschein declined
comment
on
the
> matter Wednesday evening. Both said they hadn't had a chance to
read
> through the cease-and-desist order.
>
>
Chris S.
N.P. AK
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