[Vision2020] Foreigners in Math, Science, and Engineering

[J Ford]

Everyone please take note of this writer's signature and note it was HE who 
wrote it.  Do I agree with his own sentiments and self 
appraisal....hmmmm.......(?)

Thank you.



J  :]





>From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>To: Nick Gier <ngier at uidaho.edu>, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Foreigners in Math, Science, and Engineering
>Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 00:14:40 -0800 (PST)
>
>Why do we need to compete Nick? Look around the world, I think Americans 
>are doing just fine comparatively. If we are so stupid, how come they are 
>all working for us? Who cares about PhDs and Master's degrees, it is just 
>paper. Creativity, originality, and ingenuity are and have always been the 
>backbone of American wealth and culture, and the US has that in spades over 
>any other nation.
>
>   America's newest invention, the Iphone; how many Chinese, Russians, and 
>Indians are going to be depending on those inside of two years, like the 
>Internet, computer, and airplane, also all US inventions?
>
>   Best,
>
>   Donovan
>   Stupid, lazy, illiterate American






>
>Nick Gier <ngier at uidaho.edu> wrote:
>   Greetings:
>
>It is a song of praise that I note that Chinese, Indians, and Russians, 
>mainly because of their solid credentials, are taking positions in our 
>universities that could be occupied by Americans, if they received enough 
>math and science in our schools and if they worked hard enough to earn PhDs 
>in these fields.
>
>Correctly for population, the Chinese graduate ten times more engineers 
>than we do.  We cannot compete unless we transform our educational systems 
>and our increasingly anti-intellectual culture.
>
>Nick Gier
>   "Truth is the summit of being; justice is the application of it to human 
>affairs."
>--Ralph Waldo Emerson
>
>"Abstract truth has no value unless it incarnates in human beings who 
>represent it, by proving their readiness to die for it."
>  --Mohandas Gandhi
>
>"Modern physics has taught us that the nature of any system cannot be 
>discovered by dividing it into its component parts and studying each part 
>by itself. . . .We must keep our attention fixed on the whole and on the 
>interconnection between the parts. The same is true of our intellectual 
>life. It is impossible to make a clear cut between science, religion, and 
>art. The whole is never equal simply to the sum of its various parts." 
>--Max Planck
>
>Nicholas F. Gier
>Professor Emeritus, Department of Philosophy, University of Idaho
>1037 Colt Rd., Moscow, ID 83843
>http://users.adelphia.net/~nickgier/home.htm
>208-882-9212/FAX 885-8950
>President, Idaho Federation of Teachers, AFL-CIO
>http://users.adelphia.net/~nickgier/ift.htm
>
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