Oops. I noticed some of my links were bad. Here's they are again.
Kit
On purchasing development rights:
http://ohioline.osu.edu/cd-fact/1263.html
http://www.plannersweb.com/wfiles/w140.html
On transfering development rights
http://ohioline.osu.edu/cd-fact/1264.html
http://government.cce.cornell.edu/doc/html/Transfer%20of%
20Development% 20Rights%20Programs.htm
http://www.mass.gov/envir/smart_growth_toolkit/pages/mod-tdr.html
On both
http://www.wi-ei.org/AgLand/transfer.htm
http://dnr.metrokc.gov/wlr/tdr/bank.htm
Begin forwarded message:
> From: Craine Kit <kcraine at verizon.net>
> Date: January 15, 2007 1:46:46 PM PST
> To: Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Moscow's Growth Policies Don't Apply to
> Whitman(ordothey?)
>
> Gary,
>
> This is an idea that has been around for some time. There are two
> approaches. One is for the government or other entities to purchase
> the right to develop. The other is trading the right to develop from
> one property in return for rights to develop something else, ususally
> at a higher density than is normally allowed. It in either case, the
> property owner still owns the property and can rent or sell it. He or
> she just can't develop it. This is an an alternative to pure zoning
> restrictions that has been used in many places.
>
> Here's a limited list of web sites you can check for more
> information, including an explanation of how the value of the right
> can be calculated. If you want more, try Googling "buying development
> rights" (without the quotes).
>
> On purchasing development rights:
>
> ohioline.osu.edu/cd-fact/1263.html
> www.plannersweb.com/wfiles/w140.html
>
>
> On transfering development rights
> ohioline.osu.edu/cd-fact/1264.html
> government.cce.cornell.edu/doc/html/Transfer%20of%20Development%
> 20Rights%20Programs.htm
> www.mass.gov/envir/smart_growth_toolkit/pages/mod-tdr.html
>
> On both
> www.wi-ei.org/AgLand/transfer.htm
> dnr.metrokc.gov/wlr/tdr/bank.htm
>
> Kit
>
> On Jan 15, 2007, at 10:53 AM, g. crabtree wrote:
>
>> What would be the incentive for the property owner to allow his
>> land to be tied up in this manner? How is a number/value arrived at
>> for the development rights? Can you provide an example of where
>> this has been "successful elsewhere" along with the details? I can
>> see how this would work for farmers/land owners who really do not
>> want to let their land go but for a owner who might be looking to
>> cash out, I do not see what incentive he would have to participate.
>> Or is this a program where saying no thank you is not an option?
>>
>> g
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Craine Kit" <kcraine at verizon.net>
>> To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 9:26 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Moscow's Growth Policies Don't Apply to
>> Whitman(ordothey?)
>>
>>> Given that the Palouse has very valuable agricultural soils and that
>>> once these are disturbed they lose productivity, perhaps we should
>>> protect them by using an approach that has be successful elsewhere:
>>> as a community, we buy the development rights. In other words, we
>> pay
>>> farmers to keep their land in production. If, at some point in time,
>>> the community as a whole prefers development over agriculture, we
>> can
>>> sell the rights and perhaps make a profit on our investment.
>>>
>>> Kit Craine
>>>
>>> On Jan 13, 2007, at 1:42 PM, g. crabtree wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dave says:
>>>>
>>>> "they (Latah/Whitman co. farmers, presumably) are using their land
>>>> (as) a lever to maximize profits as they know best, trying to
>>>> protect their futures."
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>> "The ag community needs to break its monoculturalistic thinking and
>>>> adopt
>>>> sustainability principles."
>>>>
>>>> Who are we to tell the owners of "the most valuable resource in the
>>>> area", the palouse soil, how and what to think? As land owners I am
>>>> certain that they have given the matter more than a little bit of
>>>> thought. If what you say is truly what you believe, would I be
>>>> correct in assuming that you are acquiring farm land as it becomes
>>>> available and putting your "sustainability principles" into
>>>> practice? If not, why? If you are, could you please share with us
>>>> the details of your experience and profitability?
>>>>
>>>> g
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "david sarff" <davesway at hotmail.com>
>>>> To: <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>; <thansen at moscow.com>;
>>>> <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 11:36 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Moscow's Growth Policies Don't Apply to
>>>> Whitman(ordothey?)
>>>>
>>>>> Matt et.al
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not so sure that it's a Whitman County vs. City of Moscow
>>>> fight; It's a
>>>>> constituency struggle. What we have are some city folks who want
>>>> to live in
>>>>> one kind of surroundings and they are surrounded by a pack of
>>>> farmers who
>>>>> are tired of being pressured and wrestling with economic
>>>> realities. Looking
>>>>> out for themselves, they are using their land a lever to maximize
>>>> profits as
>>>>> they know best, trying to protect their futures.
>>>>> What I would prefer is that city retain its agricultural
>>>> foundations and
>>>>> integrate them more fully back into the community. Put the farmer
>>>> square in
>>>>> the middle of the community. There are some small signs in town,
>>>> that this
>>>>> is trying to happen.
>>>>> The ag community needs to break its monoculturalistic thinking
>>>> and adopt
>>>>> sustainability principles.
>>>>> The Palouse soil is the most valuable natural resource in the
>>>> area, if we
>>>>> don't work to utilize and enhance this medium, we will all loose.
>>>>> Don't pave Paradise.
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What a great post. I only hope more of these come out in the near
>>>> future.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And cheers to Whitman for not allowing Moscow to bully them with
>>>> silly
>>>>>> excuses and agendas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
>>>>>>> To: "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: [Vision2020] Moscow's Growth Policies Don't Apply to
>>>> Whitman (or
>>>>>>> dothey?)
>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 06:47:52 -0800
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From today's (January 13, 2007) Moscow-Pullman Daily News -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OUR VIEW: Moscow's growth policies don't apply to Whitman
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By Murf Raquet, for the editorial board
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Saturday, January 13, 2007 - Page Updated at 10:20:50 PM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Political boundaries on the Palouse are clear.Moscow city
>>>> limits extend
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> the Washington state border as does the eastern edge of Whitman
>>>> County.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Both entities have their own regulations to follow when it
>>>> comes to
>>>>>>> development. Often those rules are similar in that they require
>>>>>> development
>>>>>>> plans to undergo sufficient public scrutiny to protect the
>>>> environment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's time for Moscow to recognize that Whitman County is
>> perfectly
>>>>>> capable
>>>>>>> of determining how and what acreage is developed within it
>>>> borders.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Whitman County has all but cleared the way for the Hawkins
>>>> Companies of
>>>>>>> Boise to develop a 600,000-square-foot retail center along the
>>>>>>> Pullman-Moscow corridor. The center would abut the state line
>>>> and Moscow.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Moscow registered concerns about the effects the development
>>>> would have
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> the aquifers, wetlands and traffic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Those concerns and others were addressed through the Washington
>>>> State
>>>>>>> Environmental Policy Act, an environmental assessment procedure
>>>> that is
>>>>>> one
>>>>>>> of the more stringent in the nation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Whitman County had no legal obligation to consider Moscow's
>>>> concerns but
>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>> so because of Moscow's proximity to the development.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That was the right thing to do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Moscow is our very close neighbor," said Whitman County
>>>> Prosecutor Denis
>>>>>>> Tracy. "We have taken extensive steps to take their concerns
>> into
>>>>>>> consideration. If they have any concerns that are not part of
>>>> the SEPA
>>>>>>> review the county hopes Moscow will pick up the phone and we
>>>> can talk
>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> their concerns."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dialogue is a fine way to resolve problems.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now, Moscow must accept the SEPA conclusion and not drag the
>> issue
>>>>>> through
>>>>>>> the court system.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Moscow has every right to determine growth policy within its
>>>> city limits.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We hope the city can restrain itself in the future if the urge
>>>> to impose
>>>>>>> its
>>>>>>> standards elsewhere pops up again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My concern is not with what facilities are built on
>>>> Washington's side of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> line, but what resources are used by those resources. As
>> has been
>>>>>>> discussed
>>>>>>> here on Vision 2020, Moscow and Pullman share a common
>>>> aquifer. The
>>>>>>> primary
>>>>>>> concern, in relation to the aquifer and facilities built on
>>>> either side
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the state line, is the "right to use" of that aquifer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As discussed by guests Rocky Barker, environmental reporter
>> (Idaho
>>>>>>> Statesman), State Senator Charles Coiner (R-Twin Falls), and
>> Prof.
>>>>>> Barbara
>>>>>>> Cosens, University of Idaho Law School, when "Mary in Moscow"
>>>> called in
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> Thursday's Idaho Public Television's "Dialogue" program, this
>>>> decision
>>>>>> may
>>>>>>> not be made locally, but by the US Supreme Court.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.tomandrodna.com/Stuff/Dialogue_011107_01.mp3
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom Hansen
>>>>>>> Moscow, Idaho
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "The Pessimist complains about the wind, the Optimist expects
>>>> it to
>>>>>> change
>>>>>>> and the REALIST adjusts his sails."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Unknown
>>>>>>>
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