[Vision2020] America's Health Care is a National Disgrace(revised)

[lfalen]

> You are both right to some extent. Advertising is fine The issue should be truth in advertising. The FDA should prohibit claims that have not been proven by scientific studies, such as testimonials.
> 
> Roger
> -----Original message-----
> From: "g. crabtree" jampot at adelphia.net
> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 07:33:22 -0800
> To: "g. crabtree" jampot at adelphia.net, "Paul Rumelhart" godshatter at yahoo.com,  vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] America's Health Care is a National Disgrace(revised)
> 
> > Sorry. Haste makes gibberish.
> > 
> > And I am suggesting that to pass regulations to forbid companies to
> > advertise to consumers is draconian. The only benefit would be physicians
> > not having to explain to a patient why they won't authorize that particular
> > product. Are you against consumer information web sites such as WebMD,
> > DocWeb or the online PDR? Just because a consumer is aware of any given
> > product does not mean that he will automatically get it. From my
> > perspective, you have got to have a better reason to pass legislation than 
> > to
> > limits peoples access to information simply because you don't want an MD to
> > have to say no and justify his refusal.
> > 
> > g
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>
> > To: "Paul Rumelhart" <godshatter at yahoo.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 5:53 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] America's Health Care is a National Disgrace
> > 
> > 
> > > And I am suggesting that to pass regulations to forbid companies to
> > > advertise to consumers is draconian. The only benefit would be physicians
> > > not having to explain to a patient why they won't authorize that 
> > > particular
> > > product. Are you against consumer information web sites such as WebMD,
> > > DocWeb or the online PDA? Just because a consumer is aware of any given
> > > product does not mean that he will automatically get it. From my
> > > perspective, you have got to have a better reason to pass legislation that
> > > limits peoples access to information them because you don't want an MD to
> > > have to say no and justify his refusal.
> > >
> > > g
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Paul Rumelhart" <godshatter at yahoo.com>
> > > To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 7:06 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] America's Health Care is a National Disgrace
> > >
> > >
> > >> g. crabtree wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Mr. Rumelhart you are right. How could a lowly "couch potato" actually
> > >>> have any valid input into his own health care. I'm certain that we, as
> > >>> patients, will all be much better off if we just shuffled through the
> > >>> doctors offices like the mindless sheep that we apparently are. The
> > >>> very idea that, as informed consumers, we could possibly have any
> > >>> insight into our own treatment is ridicules. Best we simply sit back
> > >>> and do as we are told by our betters. Perhaps it would be a good idea
> > >>> to apply this principle to all aspects of our pathetic little lives
> > >>> and joyfully accept whatever the powers that be command us to do. The
> > >>> very idea of imposing on the great and powerful physician, by
> > >>> suggesting that a product that we were made aware of, whether it be
> > >>> through a TV or magazine ad or research done by whatever means,  might
> > >>> be of benefit to us is, clearly, overstepping the bounds. His having
> > >>> to actually explain why it might not be the best course of treatment
> > >>> is clearly placing far too large a burden on the already beleaguered
> > >>> MD. (we probably wouldn't be able to understand anyway) People who
> > >>> suggest that patients participate in their own health care are,
> > >>> obviously, misguided. Thank you for helping me see the matter more
> > >>> clearly. I is obveusly two dum to halve a valid opinyun in this mater.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Whatever.  If you really want to believe that you know more about health
> > >> care than a trained physician based on a 30-second advertisement, well,
> > >> it's your funeral.
> > >>
> > >> Just to be clear, I'm including myself in the population of people who
> > >> would be better off letting the trained professionals do their jobs.
> > >> I'm not trying to say that people are stupid and physicians are smart.
> > >> It's just that they spent many years learning this stuff and working
> > >> with it on a day-to-day basis.  I just trust them in general more than a
> > >> self-serving pharmaceutical marketing department.  Your mileage may vary.
> > >>
> > >> Paul
> > >>
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