[Vision2020] Just one more place where Nick Gier can't tell right from wrong.

[Pat Kraut]

Over the weekend I heard someone say the same thing on Cspan and I have
heard and read it from others so I think it is true. As with many others I
have studied more about Islam since 9/11 than I ever expected I would. I
have learned a lot and think that maybe I understand more and have lot to
learn yet but I am more knowledgeable than I was before. I listened to many
programs on Cspan and have found them imformative but I sure have many
questions. Being a Christian I am well aware of how someone/groups can take
the bible and develope their own interpretaion so I am cautions about others
doing it to the Koran. I am also very aware of how different sects decipher
things to suit themselves so I am working slow.  I am aware that books about
Islam and the Middle East are selling more so than ever so I know I am not
the only one doing a study.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: <heirdoug at netscape.net>
To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>; <pkraut at moscow.com>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 9:53 AM
Subject: Just one more place where Nick Gier can't tell right from wrong.


I'm with you Pat. This poll is similar to the one where they asked a
bunch of folks on the the street: "is it the gun that is evil or is it
the bullets that are evil???"

I just love this line "the enemy is the violence they exalt." Like
their sharia law and the last thing that was said in the Koran was not
the important point... "death to the infidel"!

 From one of Doug Wilson's sermons: "The Koran is not organized
chronologically, but rather the same way the letters of Paul are
organized in the New Testament—by length. This leads many people to
think that “peace” verses in the Koran and “war” verses are all jumbled
together, to be sorted out as the occasion demands. But the peace
verses were from the first Meccan period, and they were abrogated by
the jihad verses that began in Medina. “If we abrogate a verse or cause
it to be forgotten, We will replace it with a better one or one
similar” (Surah 2:106)."

I guess that Nick will never know what is right and what is wrong!

lemeno, Doug!









In truth, the common enemy is violence and terrorism, not Muslims any
more
than Christians or Jews. Whether recruits to violent causes join gangs
in
Los Angeles or terrorist cells in Lahore, the enemy is the violence they
exalt.

Our surveys show that not only do Muslims reject terrorism as much if
not
more than Americans, but even those who are sympathetic to radical
ideology
can be won over by positive American actions that promote goodwill and
offer
real hope.

America's goal, in partnership with Muslim public opinion, should be to
defeat terrorists by isolating them from their own societies. The most
effective policies to achieve that goal are the ones that build on our
common humanity. And we can start by recognizing that Muslims
throughout the
world want peace as much as Americans do.

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