[Vision2020] Godwin's Law Strikes Again!

Tony tonytime at clearwire.net
Thu Feb 8 09:23:25 PST 2007


Keely, the wisdom of standing up for the innocent among us?

Your kidding, right?

Graciousness would not have been appropriate when dealing with one who 
champions another's "right" to kill.

Relevance?  The issue in question is perhaps the most compelling and 
divisive one we face.

Now you know what you missed.

Best,  -T
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
To: <jampot at adelphia.net>; <debismith at moscow.com>; <suehovey at moscow.com>; 
<vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Godwin's Law Strikes Again!


> OK, Mr. Crabtree.  Please explain to us the wisdom, graciousness and
> relevance of Tony's post to Sue, and explain why there was no cause for
> offense.  Really.  I'm eager to see what I missed here.
>
> keely
>
>
> From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>
> To: <debismith at moscow.com>, <suehovey at moscow.com>, <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Godwin's Law Strikes Again!
> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 20:07:27 -0800
>
> Extremely interesting. Should someone from the mildly conservative side of
> the fence have a minor lapse of manners or tact, the squealing and
> castigation rises to a level at which our canine friends experience 
> profound
> and lasting aural pain.
>
> But on the other hand it's OK to demean the offender with a level of 
> calumny
> several orders of magnitude greater then anything originally said. I mean
> really, when you feel you have to resort to not so subtly calling 
> someone's
> mother a bitch along with the silly BS in the post to which I'm 
> responding,
> you really have to wonder If Ms. Hovey, Ms. R-S, Mr. Fox, and the rest of
> the usual suspects have any sense of irony at all. Double standard risen 
> to
> the power of hypocritical joke. What's even funnier is that this
> communication will likely raise the trash talk to the next level as well 
> as
> spread it to additional players. Who needs comedy central when we've got 
> the
> V.
>
> Commence self righteous, self satisfied, school yard sputtering,
> g
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <debismith at moscow.com>
> To: <suehovey at moscow.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 7:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Godwin's Law Strikes Again!
>
>
> > What a gift you have been given, Sue. The ToeKnee has resorted to his
> usual tactics when he
> > has to respond to a smart woman---sexual innuendo coupled with his own
> defensiveness about
> > his own sexuality. In response to this, count on him needing to repeat
> his rejection of all that is
> > strongly Feminine (in the sense of Power and Knowledge). The ToeKnees of
> the world must dis
> > Women, as a means of shoring up the very manhood they doubt. Sad, sad,
> little man.
> > Repetitious, too. I do agree that he is likely not a masochist. That
> doesn't preclude his terminal
> > tedious stupidity, nor his sadistic tendencies. Not every sadist also
> swings the other way. Real
> > Men, Manly Men, Secure Men, Godly Men, Sexually Attractive and
> Emotionally Stable Men,
> > do not behave the way ToeKnee behaves. Thankfully, there are really more
> of the former than
> > the latter. Those Men would (and do) think ToeKnee is merely posing as a
> Man.
> >
> > Debi R-S
> >
> >
> > From:           "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
> > To:             "Sue Hovey" <suehovey at moscow.com>
> > Date sent:      Wed, 7 Feb 2007 14:47:40 -0800
> > Copies to:      vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Subject:        Re: [Vision2020] Godwin's Law Strikes Again!
> >
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> >
> > Sue, this notion of yours that we have had a relationship, presumes
> > that I would enter into one with such a shrill, unfeminine harpy.
> > While I suppose I could cater to your fantasy by playing along, I am,
> > alas, not a masochist.
> >
> > Tony
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sue Hovey" <suehovey at moscow.com>
> > To: "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
> > Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 11:23 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Godwin's Law Strikes Again!
> >
> >
> >> Tony,
> >>
> >> Our relationship is finished, done. over.  It just doesn't make any
> >> sense to correspond with anyone whose mother didn't keep them in
> >> check when they were young.  I bet her chain wasn't long enough for
> >> her to come out from under the house and bite you on the leg when
> >> you misbehaved.
> >>
> >> Sue Hovey
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
> >> To: "Sue Hovey" <suehovey at moscow.com>
> >> Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 8:36 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Godwin's Law Strikes Again!
> >>
> >>
> >>> Sue, no doubt those who kept other folks as slaves in centuries
> >>> past regarded themselves as pro-choice also.  They weren't and you
> >>> aren't.
> >>>
> >>> You'd better pray that hell is a myth.
> >>>
> >>> -T
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Sue Hovey" <suehovey at moscow.com>
> >>> To: "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >>> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 10:25 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Godwin's Law Strikes Again!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Well, now, that's a compelling ending:  refusing to allow
> >>>> those..........You are referring to those of us who are
> >>>> pro-choice, call it what you will--defining yourself as the
> >>>> refuser--at what point have we ever come to you for permission?
> >>>> Huh
> >>>>
> >>>> Sue Hovey
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>
> >>>> To: <nickgier at adelphia.net>
> >>>> Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >>>> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 4:38 PM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Godwin's Law Strikes Again!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Championing the premeditated killing of innocent babies is bad
> >>>>> enough, but calling those who stand up for life illogical and
> >>>>> asinine is the mark of a moral degenerate.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> By the way, tradition has often been terribly mistaken in the
> >>>>> past and unfortunately there will always be those with an ethical
> >>>>> threshold low enough to allow them to countenance barbarism.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Tony Simpson, refusing to allow those who consistently support
> >>>>> death to posture as pro-life. ----- Original Message ----- From:
> >>>>> <nickgier at adelphia.net> To: <vision2020 at moscow.com> Sent: Monday,
> >>>>> February 05, 2007 10:23 AM Subject: [Vision2020] Godwin's Law
> >>>>> Strikes Again!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Greetings:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Answering arguments with name calling is bad enough, but calling
> >>>>>> your opponent a Nazi engages Godwin's Law and brands the
> >>>>>> violator a total ass.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> By the way, it's tradition that defines a person as one with
> >>>>>> significant cognitive functioning.  I'm quite willing to agree
> >>>>>> on ability to feel pain as the way to determine a serious moral
> >>>>>> right to life.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Nick Gier, just trying to be consistently pro-life in an
> >>>>>> anti-life world
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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