[Vision2020] A Fresh Look at Southern Slavery As It Was

g. crabtree jampot at adelphia.net
Fri Feb 2 13:27:10 PST 2007


Heaven help me, here we go again. How appropriate that to night we have a 
full moon. It appears that your theory that all of Moscow is a mite thick, 
has fallen flat (...He's got most of Moscow befuddled...V2020 Jan 21, 2007 
13:42) and now you fall; back on insult and acrimony.

Why don't you just say it plain. You figure that you have all the answers 
when it comes to all matters biblical and it is at odds with Mr. Wilson's 
views. Nothing more, nothing less. Rather then following the tried and true 
business model of providing a superior product you shrilly attempt to tear 
down your competition. After all, the locals is to dum to see for them selfs 
whats going on. We needs Rev. Keely to show us the light.

Thank goodness we have you and your intrepid band to set us all straight.

g
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
To: <jampot at adelphia.net>; <donaldrose at cpcinternet.com>; 
<vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] A Fresh Look at Southern Slavery As It Was


> Isn't it possible, and not just to a wacky moonbat like myself, that 
> Wilson's ministries are about something far greater and than monetary 
> gain -- and yet include gaining profit in service of that greater cause?
>
> And, if that were the case, wouldn't that mean that your assessment of 
> Rose's views is illogical as well as ill-informed?
>
> Profiting from bad scholarship, bigotry, errant theology, divisiveness, 
> privilege, evasiveness and a collective calloused heart is bad enough, but 
> not as bad, I think, as promulgating such beliefs and exhibiting such 
> actions in the first place.  That people buy this crap simply reaffirms 
> that it's dangerously effective among what we hope is a limited group of 
> pathetically insulated people.
>
> keely
>
>
> From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>
> To: "donald huskey" <donaldrose at cpcinternet.com>, <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] A Fresh Look at Southern Slavery As It Was
> Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 10:07:56 -0800
>
> Rose, nice to hear from you again, it's been a while.
>
> Less than half a year ago I asked you point blank, face to face, if you 
> thought that Mr. Wilson and his ministry was about financial gain. You 
> looked me in the eye and replied, in no uncertain terms, that you did not. 
> One of the few direct answers I received from you on topic CC. Your reply 
> was such that I was lead to believe that it was pretty much the only evil 
> which you didn't hold Team Wilson guilty of.
>
> When you bend and flex your assertions to suit whatever audience you have 
> in front of you at any given time, it's just one more reason for me to 
> dismiss the position  that you and your wacky band of moonbats champion.
>
>
> g
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: donald huskey
>   To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>   Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 10:26 PM
>   Subject: [Vision2020] A Fresh Look at Southern Slavery As It Was
>
>
>   Visionaries:
>
>
>
>   The discussion of the Wilson / Wilkins infamous little pamphlet 
> "Southern Slavery As It Was" is not a new topic on V2020.   SSAIW has been 
> roundly condemned by academics, theologians, and the majority of this 
> community.  It's defenders are few, and generally limited to the ragged 
> remnant of Neo/Paleo Confederates who think Gone With the Wind is 
> non-fiction.  To those of us familiar with SSAIW it was a great relief 
> when Canon Press stopped publishing this ill-considered, poorly written, 
> historically inaccurate, heavily plagiarized, piece of trash.
>
>
>
>   Sadly, SSAIW appears to have been given new life by Blue Bonnet Press 
> <http://www.bluebonnetpress.com/> in the book The War Between The States. 
> Blue Bonnet Press is owned by John Dwyer.  Mr. Dwyer holds an 
> undergraduate degree in Journalism, has engaged in unspecified 
> "post-graduate studies in history" (note: no degree listed) and holds a 
> Masters from Dallas Theological Seminary.  He is employed at Coram Deo 
> Academy 
> <http://www.coramdeoacademy.org/content/teacherpages/index.php#dallas> a 
> member school of the Association of Classical Christian Schools, Doug 
> Wilson's accrediting agency for Christian schools modeled on Logos School.
>
>
>
>   Dwyer, principal author and editor, describes his  700 + page effort as 
> a book that:
>
>   "[refuses] to cater to anyone's notion of the truth other than that of 
> history itself. Most contemporary so-called "scholarship" on most time 
> periods and particularly of the American War Between the States is so 
> blinded by materialistic, utilitarian, Marxist-oriented perspectives on 
> government, society, and history that it fails the "smell test" for what 
> is accurate history, not to mention how problematic its judgments and 
> assumptions are to those who hold a Christian world view and a 
> traditionalist perspective of Constitutional, Republican American 
> government."  http://www.bluebonnetpress.com/wbts_interview.html
>
>   Mr. Dwyer did not tackle this magnum opus single-handedly.   He was 
> aided by George Grant, J. Steven Wilkins, Doug Wilson, and (former) 
> secondary principal at Logos School, Tom Spencer.  Study Guides for the 
> book are online at:
>
>   http://www.bluebonnetpress.com/wbts_sg_part1.html
>
>
>
>   Chapters 7 and 8 are titled "Southern Slavery As It Was".  The Study 
> Guide for these chapters include such penetrating questions as:
>
>
>
>   "4..      Using the arguments given in this chapter and others you may 
> think applicable, give your opinion on the question debated in 1845 by two 
> Presbyterian pastors:                        "Is SlaveHolding in Itself 
> Sinful, and the Relation Between Master and Slave, a  Sinful Relation?"
>
>
>
>   5.         In your opinion, how useful to understanding and judging 
> antebellum slavery is an analysis of the practice within the context of 
> Biblical principles on the subject?"
>
>
>
>   http://www.bluebonnetpress.com/pdf/SGQs_Ch_7.pdf
>
>
>
>   Clearly, SSAIW has once again reared its ugly head to contaminate the 
> minds and stunt the intellectual growth of children whose Kirk-enthralled 
> parents lack the mother-wit to recognize the difference between the 
> racist, Neo-Confederate cretins pretending to be legitimate historians and 
> authentic, academically-trained scholars.
>
>
>
>   It became apparent to me many years ago that Doug Wilson is not averse 
> to financial gain at the expense of truth.  Nonetheless, his share of 
> royalties from this $39.00 book are undoubtedly minimal.  Who among us 
> would be willing to target an audience of children with the grotesquely 
> deceitful content of Southern Slavery As It Was in exchange for a pocket 
> full of pennies?   Once again, I ask Doug Wilson, have you no shame?
>
>
>
>   Rose Huskey
>
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