[Vision2020] Civility is a two-way street

g. crabtree jampot at roadrunner.com
Thu Dec 20 20:11:56 PST 2007

My Heavens, Mr. Moffett is having an extraordinarily difficult time letting 
this tired subject go. Goodness knows I'm sure your "concern" is of 
monumental import for some (well you mainly) but it is equally a waste of 
time. I take your opinions and recriminations  as seriously as your dire 
anthropogenic climate change doom predictions. That is to say they are 
chuckled over then discarded out of hand.

On that note, please see:

 US Senate Committee on Environment & Public Works

"Over 400 prominent scientists from more than two dozen countries recently 
voiced significant objections to major aspects of the so-called "consensus" 
on man-made global warming. These scientists, many of whom are current and 
former participants in the UN IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate 
Change), criticized the climate claims made by the UN IPCC and former Vice 
President Al Gore.

The new report issued by the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee's 
office of the GOP Ranking Member details the views of the scientists, the 
overwhelming majority of whom spoke out in 2007.

Even some in the establishment media now appears to be taking notice of the 
growing number of skeptical scientists. In October, the Washington Post 
Staff Writer Juliet Eilperin conceded the obvious, writing that climate 
skeptics "appear to be expanding rather than shrinking." Many scientists 
from around the world have dubbed 2007 as the year man-made global warming 
fears "bites the dust." (LINK)

This blockbuster Senate report lists the scientists by name, country of 
residence, and academic/institutional affiliation.  It also features their 
own words, biographies, and weblinks to their peer reviewed studies and 
original source materials as gathered from public statements, various news 
outlets, and websites in 2007. This new "consensus busters" report is poised 
to redefine the debate."

I imagine I can hear the responses already. The melodic shrieking of "Hacks" 
"Corporate Shills," and "Propaganda." If the standard response is going to 
be another round of "we're right and you suck" along with a rousing chorus 
of "our scientists are more brainy  then yours," please save it for the like 
minded at the coffee shop. Your current argument suffers for its endless 
repetition and diminishing credibility.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ted Moffett" <starbliss at gmail.com>
To: "Scott Dredge" <sdredge at yahoo.com>
Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Civility is a two-way street

> Scott wrote:
>> Perfect!  I hope we don't ever again need to read from you or anyone else
>> about how unethical Gary was for posting a private email considering you
>> don't care what he posts.
> Just to clarify, anyone who posts private e-mail to Vision2020 is a
> concern for this list serve, and should be responded to... I stated I
> did not respond to "irrational content" or "ad hominem attacks."
> Usually a waste of time. Someone forwarding private e-mail to
> Vision2020 is a different matter.
> Ted Moffett
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