[Vision2020] Last Response to Atwood

J Ford privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Thu Dec 6 06:59:56 PST 2007


Well -  apparently, you are!  

J  :]


> To: vision2020 at mail-gw.fsr.net
> From: pkraut at moscow.com
> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 05:41:38 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Last Response to Atwood
> 
> is anyone really reading all this stuff??
> 
> 
> 
> > Below is my last response to Atwood. Atwood's original letter to the 
> editor of the Daily
> News and our subsequent exchange are found here:
> > 
> > http://www.dnews.com/story/opinion/25619/#comments
> > 
> > Unfortunately, you need to have a subscription to the Daily News in 
> order to access this
> page.
> > 
> > --
> > Joe Campbell
> > 
> > ---------------------------
> > 
> > Roy,
> > 
> > I have a hard time reading this and believing that your call for 
> civility was genuine. You
> seem to want people to stop criticizing Christ Church while remaining 
> able to play the
> ‘bigot’ card, suggesting that this criticism is entirely based on 
> religious
> persecution. Your standard for civility seems to be: We can continue to 
> insult you but you
> can say nothing about us in response.
> > 
> > Previous to this recent reply you wrote: "Your responses here have been 
> to repeat familiar
> charges, and even raise new accusations. But that's going to get us 
> nowhere, I believe."
> Yet you do the same in this post -- repeat familiar charges against the 
> critics of Christ
> Church and raise new allegations. How is this going to get us anywhere? 
> Why should others
> stop if you don’t?
> > 
> > One of the familiar charges is that Nick had something to do with the 
> comment 'Hitler
> Youth' which was written in CHALK on a public SIDEWALK near NSA. Above 
> you claim that no
> one has the right to say that offensive anonymous comments directed 
> toward me in this post
> are the work of Christ Church members. Yet you continue to blame Nick for 
> the actions of
> an anonymous fool. There is a double standard here.
> > 
> > Also, if you allow that some column from an editor in Lewiston is 
> evidence that Christ
> Church is the victim of religious persecution, then I can use comments by 
> the Southern
> Poverty Law Center, and their famous "Taliban on the Palouse" article in 
> support of the
> claim that Wilson and others in Christ Church are bigots; I can use 
> comments by Wilson’s
> own father made in the New York Times to the effect that Christ Church 
> and NSA are taking
> over the town; I can use sanctions levied against Christ Church by 
> governing church bodies
> to show that Pastor Wilson is acting in a way that is un-Christian. All 
> of this would be
> reason for the kind of boycott that you consider baseless. 
> > 
> > The fact is there is a lot of anger directed toward Christ Church and 
> plenty of reason
> behind the anger. This is why there is a wide-scale boycott of Christ 
> Church owned
> businesses. Anyone who seeks for themselves the answers to the questions 
> raised above that
> you did not answer will realize this. Until you, Wilson, Iverson, 
> Courtney and others
> admit your own role in creating our current situation, the problem will 
> not go away.
> > 
> > I have no plan to talk to you in private. What I want is for you to 
> stop making
> unsupported claims that harm my reputation and the reputations of my 
> friends. What I want
> is for you and others to publicly admit that Christ Church is not an 
> innocent victim.
> Unless you do so, your call for civility is a joke.
> > 
> > Thanks for the ‘response,’ limited as it was, and I hope that you 
> enjoy the Advent
> season, too!
> > 
> > Best, Joe
> > 
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