[Vision2020] Under-fire senator alleges entrapment
Paul Rumelhart
godshatter at yahoo.com
Fri Aug 31 18:20:01 PDT 2007
It does seem counter-productive to spend all this effort cleaning up a
scandal that wouldn't be half as large if they simply let it drop.
Paul
Scott Dredge wrote:
> Paul,
>
> I don't like to see Larry Craig demonized either and the vicious attacks - aside from the late night comedians - are only coming from his own party members. There is not a single Democrat other than Tom Hansen (who doesn't know the value of keeping his powder dry) calling for Craig's resignation. The Republicans sure implode easily.
>
> -Scott
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
> To: david sarff <davesway at hotmail.com>
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com; joekc at adelphia.net
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 5:47:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Under-fire senator alleges entrapment
>
> It appears that his biggest concern was that he wouldn't have to be
> called in to court. I'm guessing that he wanted to sweep it under the
> rug so that his family didn't know and so that the media might not
> notice. He appears to have failed utterly at that.
>
> I'm by no means a supporter of his politics. I, too, find it
> distressing that he voted for the no bid contract with Halliburton. I
> just don't like to see this guy demonized over something that was (imho)
> very vague and could easily be created out of whole cloth in the mind of
> a police officer who was maybe too zealous in his attempts to catch a
> perpetrator.
>
> Paul
>
> david sarff wrote:
>
>> If he is innocent and he can't represent himself better than he did
>> and he's supposed represent our state and the country, he's got a
>> credibility problem. If he's guilty, he's got a credibility problem.
>> Frankly, I don't think he's gay as much as he's in love with himself
>> and any-body that will service his pompous self is likely fair game.
>> If this is true and he is supposed to represent others, including his
>> wife...bad credibility.
>> I do think that the dogs of his own party will be his actual undoing.
>> If he's perceived as a closet gay
>> , then he may perceived as a closet liberal. That could be worse.
>> This guy approved of the no bid contract for Halliburton, among a lot
>> of other things, that action pissed me off more than any of the recent
>> stuff.
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> You know, I'd feel a lot better about this if he was actually caught
>>> having sex in the restroom, or caught on tape giving money for sex, or
>>> something else more-or-less unambiguous.
>>>
>>> There might be reasons why you would stand outside the door of someone's
>>> stall, especially if you were waiting for one to free up. The officer
>>> might have imagined that he was trying to peer in at him, when instead
>>> he was lost in thought. You might put your roller bag in front of the
>>> stall door not to attempt to block what you want to do from sight, but
>>> because there is no other fricking place to put it where you can still
>>> see it. You might tap your damn foot out of simple boredom. You might
>>> not even be aware you are doing it. You might accidentally touch the
>>> foot of the person in the stall next to you, especially if you are a
>>> larger guy that needs to shed a few pounds. You might reach under the
>>> partition for toilet paper, or you might have been doing something with
>>> your bags that are sitting in front of you and the gesture was
>>> misconstrued.
>>>
>>> I do realize that he pled guilty to their charge, but when you are
>>> hoping that it might blow over - and when you are apparently trying to
>>> keep it from your family as well as the media, you might plead guilty to
>>> try to make it go away.
>>>
>>> I have no idea if he was really guilty or not, but I think this thing
>>> has snowballed out of control. I don't particularly agree with this
>>> guy's politics, and I'm certainly no real supporter of his, but I think
>>> he's getting the short end of the stick.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> Joe Campbell wrote:
>>>
>>>> That was the headline on the CNN website. I remember Roy Schieder
>>>>
>>> talking about
>>>
>>>> the seven stages of accepting death (or something like that) in
>>>>
>>> "All that Jazz." One
>>>
>>>> stage was denial. Craig appears to be going through the seven
>>>>
>>> stages of denial.
>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Joe Campbell
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