[Vision2020] Craig's official statement

Wed Aug 29 11:25:19 PDT 2007

Yesterday  that was the only information  I had. Now we have the complete report and what  seems to be a history of questionable behavior. I think that under any circumstances  Craig is guilty of extremely poor judgement. If the report is accurate then he did exhibit very strange behavior, although I don't see where he actually did anything sexual. To plead guilty to  something you did not do is dumb. I think it is very inconsistent for those who make excuses for Clinton are out to nail Craig.
I would hope that Craig finishes out his term of office and does not run for reelection.
Roger

-----Original message-----
From: Joe Campbell joekc at adelphia.net
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 14:37:49 -0700
To: lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Craig's official statement

> Roger,
> 
> That Craig merely touched someone else's foot seems to go against the 
> information in the police report that Tom posted, as well as information on the 
> CNN website found here:
> 
> http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/08/28/craig.arrest/index.html
> 
> Tell me, why would they charge Craig for "lewd conduct" if all he did was 
> touch another man's foot with his own foot? Why would Craig -- someone with 
> a law degree -- plead guilty if this is all that happened? It doesn't add up.
> 
> Notice that on the CNN website it says: "A police officer who arrested him 
> June 11 said Craig peered through a crack in a restroom stall door for two 
> minutes and made gestures suggesting to the officer he wanted to engage in 
> 'lewd conduct.' ... 'Craig would look down at his hands, "fidget" with his 
> fingers, and then look through the crack into my stall again,' Karsnia wrote in 
> documents accompanying the arrest report."
> 
> Tell me, do you give Michael Vick the benefit of the doubt? Do you say, "Well, 
> he just plead guilty in order to save himself some trouble. That doesn't mean 
> he is guilty of any crime." Or do you take his case for what it is, i.e., a 
> genuine admission of guilt. And if you treat Vick differently, why?
> 
> --
> Joe Campbell
> 
> ---- lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote: 
> 
> =============
> No I have not followed every vote by every Congressman. I think people tend to look at ssues that they are the most interested in. In regard to the charge against Craig- I don't thing that touching someone's foot is anything to get too excited over. However if had had been me and there wasn't any tissue in the stall, I would have simply said "Can you hand me some toilet paper"
> Roger
> -----Original message-----
> From: "Sue Hovey" suehovey at moscow.com
> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 10:45:17 -0700
> To: "lfalen" lfalen at turbonet.com,  "Paul Rumelhart" godshatter at yahoo.com, "Joe Campbell" joekc at adelphia.net
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Craig's official statement
> 
> > Folks who don't know where Craig stands on sexuality haven't been following 
> > his senatorial career.
> > 
> > Sue Hovey
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "lfalen" <lfalen at turbonet.com>
> > To: "Paul Rumelhart" <godshatter at yahoo.com>; "Joe Campbell" 
> > <joekc at adelphia.net>
> > Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 9:55 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Craig's official statement
> > 
> > 
> > > My sentiments also. I don't know where Craig stands on sexuality. Joe. 
> > > maybe you could let us know were the hypocrisy is?
> > > -----Original message-----
> > > From: Paul Rumelhart godshatter at yahoo.com
> > > Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:25:26 -0700
> > > To: Joe Campbell joekc at adelphia.net
> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Craig's official statement
> > >
> > >> Sure, be my guest.
> > >>
> > >> You're welcome.
> > >>
> > >> Is he actively anti-homosexual or something?  Despite the fact that he
> > >> gave me a nomination to the Air Force Academy in 1984 (which turned me
> > >> down) I haven't really followed his career that much.
> > >>
> > >> I'm just saying that I'd hate to be in that situation and not actually
> > >> be guilty.  Tapping your right foot.  Who knew?  I might also be tempted
> > >> to just pay the damn fine and hope nobody notices, too.
> > >>
> > >> I do know I plan to keep both feet solidly on the floor for the duration
> > >> next time I'm in an airport restroom.
> > >>
> > >> Paul
> > >>
> > >> Joe Campbell wrote:
> > >> > Paul,
> > >> >
> > >> > You're not really that naive, are you? How about hypocrisy? Can we 
> > >> > accuse him of that?
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > Joe Campbell
> > >> >
> > >> > --------------------
> > >> >
> > >> > The article I read in the Washington Post said that he had tapped the
> > >> > foot of the person in the stall next him and reached under the
> > >> > partition. Naive to ways of the dance of restroom stall courtship and
> > >> > etiquette, I probably would have handed him some toilet paper blithely
> > >> > assuming that his dispenser was empty.
> > >> >
> > >> > I haven't yet read the articles linked to earlier - so it's possible it
> > >> > was more than that. But given what the Post said, I can't really accuse
> > >> > him of much myself.
> > >> >
> > >> > Paul
> > >> >
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