[Vision2020] Baudrillard: The Childishness of Adults

Ted Moffett starbliss at gmail.com
Tue Aug 21 21:02:22 PDT 2007


Warren et. al.

The post you responded to said nothing about anyone posting under any
identity, fabricated or otherwise... That's a different thread...

Ted Moffett


On 8/21/07, Warren Hayman <whayman at roadrunner.com> wrote:
>
>  Hello All,
>
> Can we simplify all this with a question?
>
> If Schwaller does not exist and refuses elaboration of identity, then the
> poster(s) of these missives practice(s) coyness, dishonesty, disingenuity,
> and jerkdom.
>
>  If Schwaller does exist and refuses elaboration of identity, then he or
> she practices coyness, dishonesty, disingenuity, and jerkdom.
>
> Why in the world bother with either response or concern to all this?
>
> Warren Hayman
>
> If multiple copies of this occur, blame me and Time-Warner!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Ted Moffett <starbliss at gmail.com>
> *To:* Vision 2020 <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 21, 2007 2:57 PM
> *Subject:* [Vision2020] Baudrillard: The Childishness of Adults
>
>
>
>  All:
>
> Pardon my indulgence in posting about a writer/thinker many will find of
> no interest.  But given that all of my "adult" life I have been astonished
> by the fact that the behavior of adults in positions of power in the world
> appears to exhibit some of the most dangerous and destructive examples of
> "childishness," the following quote from Baudrillard, from "Simulacra and
> Simulations," hit home.  Again, this strikes me as brilliant
> socio-psychoanalysis:
>
>
> http://www.egs.edu/faculty/baudrillard/baudrillard-simulacra-and-simulations.html
>
> The Disneyland imaginary is neither true nor false: it is a deterrence
> machine set up in order to rejuvenate in reverse the fiction of the real.
> Whence the debility, the infantile degeneration of this imaginary. It's
> meant to be an infantile world, in order to make us believe that the adults
> are elsewhere, in the "real" world, and to conceal the fact that real
> childishness is everywhere, particularly among those adults who go there to
> act the child in order to foster illusions of their real childishness.
>
> ------
>
> Ted Moffett
>
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