[Vision2020] Only Christians Need Apply???

Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com
Tue Aug 14 17:57:20 PDT 2007


Mr. Eiselein -

Perhaps Andreas misstated his comments. 

This discussion concerns vacancy announcements of public positions, not
offers of employment.

These announcements should have been made publicly, like all public vacancy
announcements.

Seeya round town, Moscow.

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

"We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The college
students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."

- Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)

-----Original Message-----
From: Kai Eiselein, editor [mailto:editor at lataheagle.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 5:41 PM
To: Andreas Schou
Cc: Tom Hansen; Saundra Lund; lfalen; v2020
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Only Christians Need Apply???

Where, and please show me, was there EVER an offer of employment made by 
this kid in the email? (Or at least the portion of it printed by White.)
She merely pointed out there were openings  available. The fact that she put

it out to church members makes NO difference. There is no law stating one 
cannot tell friends, family and even fellow church members about employment 
opportunities.
To suggest a dispatcher was making a job offer is ludacris.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andreas Schou" <ophite at gmail.com>
To: "Kai Eiselein, editor" <editor at lataheagle.com>
Cc: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>; "Saundra Lund" 
<sslund at roadrunner.com>; "lfalen" <lfalen at turbonet.com>; "v2020" 
<vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Only Christians Need Apply???


> Kai --
>
> It is, in fact, actually illegal to only extend offers of employment
> only to members of one religion, especially if one is a state agency.
> Like, for instance, the LCSO. I'm not sure that's actually what
> happened, but I think that's what people are objecting to.
>
> Thought experiment: What would be the practical difference, in terms
> of Jews employed by the LCSO, between a "No Jews Allowed" sign and
> only putting job postings in Christian churches?
>
> -- ACS
>
> On 8/14/07, Kai Eiselein, editor <editor at lataheagle.com> wrote:
>> First of all, I find this so called "outrage" appalling.
>> This kid did nothing out of the ordinary, I doubt there would have been 
>> ANY
>> hub-bub had an email gone out to, say, Lutheran Church members.
>> She did nothing illegal, immoral or unethical by stating there were 
>> openings
>> in the department. She may have gone overboard by over-emphasizing the
>> "perks", but that was her only transgression.
>> People tell friends and aquaintences about job openings all the time in
>> nearly every profession all the time. Even at, "gasp", the University of
>> Idaho. If anyone says it doesn't happen at UI, they are either naive or a
>> liar.
>> For anyone to point fingers and make accusations of percieved misdeeds 
>> while
>> ignoring the same thing at one's own place of employment makes one 
>> nothing
>> more than a hypocrite.
>> You were on this faster than a pack of starving dogs on a steak, all 
>> because
>> the word "Kirker" was involved. White got what she wanted; an inflamed
>> response. Rather than acting like rational beings, the "pack mentality" 
>> took
>> over and brought v2020 to a new low.
>> As I watched this "discussion" unfold, I was stunned and angered.
>> You should be ashamed of yourselves.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
>> To: "'Saundra Lund'" <sslund at roadrunner.com>; "'lfalen'"
>> <lfalen at turbonet.com>; "'v2020'" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 3:21 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Only Christians Need Apply???
>>
>>
>> > Question:  Aren't job announcements for public positions (pronounced 
>> > "tax
>> > supported") required to be made in a public venue (i.e. local 
>> > newspapers,
>> > local public bulletin boards) and not restricted to a specific mailing
>> > list?
>> >
>> > I ask this because, outside of those fortunate enough to be included in
>> > Ms.
>> > Nieuwsma's distribution list, nobody else has been made aware of these
>> > announcements.
>> >
>> > Seeya round town, Moscow.
>> >
>> > Tom Hansen
>> > Moscow, Idaho
>> >
>> > "We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The college
>> > students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."
>> >
>> > - Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)
>> >
>> >
>> >
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