[Vision2020] Trinity Festival protest

[Joe Campbell]

Dear Roger,

I invite you return with me to New Jersey this 
Thanksgiving, for my 30th high school reunion.

I’ll introduce you to Raymond Harrison, a friend of 
mine who was an all-American defensive tackle at Seton 
Hall and currently works on a SWAT team.

After I explain to him Wilson’s thesis that slavery 
wasn’t soooooo bad, you could talk about the difference 
between the biblical justification of slavery and the 
actual holding of slaves (be aware that Ray, like most 
African-Americans, is a Christian).

If we both get out of there alive, I will buy you a car.

Best, Joe


---- lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote: 

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Joe 
There is a difference between saying that it is bibiblically justified and saying that they recommend it in today's society.
My understanding is that they think it is a sin but also say hate the sin, love the sinner.
Roger
-----Original message-----
From: Joe Campbell joekc at adelphia.net
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 13:55:20 -0700
To: lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Trinity Festival protest

> Roger,
> 
> Maybe you missed Andreas's last post, which makes the point clearer. 
> He writes (to Gary):
> 
> "I just find it utterly, gobsmackingly amazing, Gary, that you would
> demand the admittance of people who espouse killing gays into a
> gay-focused club. I don't think that warrants any more than a single
> sentence."
> 
> Don't you think that there is reason to exclude a group which as explicitly 
> admitted that the killing of gays and lesbians is biblically justified from a
> meeting run by gays and lesbians?
> 
> How much threatening abuse should this group have to tolerate, on your 
> understanding of rights?
> 
> --
> Joe Campbell
> 
> ---- lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote: 
> 
> =============
> Andreas
> You are trying to compare apples and orange.  A private club operating on private property and supported by private funds can admit or prohibit anyone they want. A group that is sponsored by a government enity, meets on government property, and is supported by taxpayers should be open to anyone who wants to attend, so long as they are not disruptive. Just being present is not disruptive.They obviously can not vote on any issue unless they are members. They can speak if  recognized by the chair.
> Roger
> -----Original message-----
> From: "Andreas Schou" ophite at gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 21:24:31 -0700
> To: "g. crabtree" jampot at roadrunner.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Trinity Festival protest
> 
> > > Two standards? Yes for two distinctly different situations.
> > 
> > Oh, I see, Gary. So, for instance, you would be in favor of this
> > Christian fraternity being forced to admit Jews, Muslims, atheists, et
> > al.
> > 
> > http://chronicle.com/news/article/2666/christian-fraternity-sues-u-of-florida-over-denial-of-recognition
> > 
> > Right? Because that's what would be consistent, right?
> > 
> > -- ACS
> > 
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