[Vision2020] New You-Tube for your summer entertainment.

[Tom Hansen]

Paul -

We are not alone in thinking that the YouTube video that No-Clue so
self-servingly provided us lacks the honesty and integrity normally
associated with the script writers of Fox News.  

This video "Tired of hearing about Atheism? Help end it," has been rated 284
times resulting in a one-star (out of a possible five-star) rating.

That portion of the viewing public thoughtful enough to express their
feelings, have provided such warm critique as:

"Soooooooooooo f....ng biased, deceiving, partial, an illogical I shouldn´t
even have bothered to reply to this one video."

"This whole thing is ridiculous propaganda, I know that any group of people
will use propaganda, but this is built of lies, half truths, and
stereotypes..."

And my personal favorite . . .

"I hate to have to point this out .....

The Crusades
The Salem witch trials
Palestine/Israel
The Spanish Inquisition
Tribal Violence in Africa
Sunni VS Kurd
Cortez and the Incas

The full list of Violence based on difering religeons is pretty much
endless.  Very few of them are Atheists killing people of faith."

But then, you really must consider who No-Clue holds up as a mentor.

Cheers,

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

"We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The college
students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."

- Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)

-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Paul Rumelhart
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 7:21 PM
To: heirdoug at netscape.net
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] New You-Tube for your summer entertainment.

I really despise these cutesy propaganda-ish jibes at the 
non-believers.  But putting that aside for the moment, I'm trying to 
understand their point.  At best, they seem to be saying that without a 
caring/feeling religion like Christianity, people treat life like it 
means nothing and can develop into despots and nazis.  Yet when you look 
over the last couple of thousand of years of Christianity, you notice 
things like the Crusades, the Inquisitions, and the witch burnings. 

We've argued on this list before about who has racked up the highest 
body count.  The answer varies depending upon who you trust for a 
historical record and who you do or don't count in modern times. 

However, if you can't easily find the answer then it follows that 
religion has no affect whatsoever on a human beings seeming need to kill 
it's own kind. 

I don't know which is better.  A God that so often inspires people to 
kill in the name of Good, or the lack of a belief in a God that fails to 
keep our basest instincts in line.  It's my opinion that the people that 
do these kinds of things are just looking for an excuse no matter what 
rationalizations they finally decide upon.

Paul