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[Joe Campbell]

Dr. Schwaller,

It is fine with me if you'd like to continue to play my-name-is-not-
Doug. I find it VERY strange but maybe that’s just me.

For the record, if you use my words to support your views, please 
get it right. I said that "there is no such thing as an 'unfettered' 
right," including free speech, but that has little to do with the 
recent protest downtown.

I didn't want to protest in front of the Kenworthy because it seemed 
rude and pointless, not because I thought that such protest was not 
protected by the first amendment. The only time that I think that 
free speech should be fettered is when it leads to harm: slander, 
crying 'fire,' etc. My comments were quite unrelated to the recent 
protest.

Also, since you read my last town crier I wonder if you read one of 
my earlier ones on the paradox of intolerance. To criticize someone 
who defends the death and exile of gays, or someone who partakes in 
revisionism about slavery, is not to be intolerant. Neither of these 
is an example of mere opinion. Perhaps you don't have any gay or 
black friends, so it is of no concern to you when others use 
threatening or insulting speech toward them. But I'm always going to 
say something in response to hate speech. And if you can tell me WHY 
that is intolerant instead of just saying it is, I'd appreciate it!

-- Joe Campbell

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Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 11:45:09 -0700 
From: "Glenn Schwaller" <vpschwaller at gmail.com> 
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Trinity Festival protest 
To: vision2020 at moscow.com 
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>So, we have established that you specifically think that it's fine to 
>show up to Head of Household meetings and shout down whoever happens 
>to be speaking, right? 
 
No, I don't think "we" have established that at all.  In fact if you will 
read my post carefully, you will see I made absolutely no such suggestion. 
I wasn't at Friday's anti Trinity Fest rally, so I don't know if speakers 
were shouted down or not.  I hope not.  I have no problem with civil, 
orderly protests, marches, or individuals speaking out for or against 
groups, causes, whatever.  If someone chooses to protest Trinity Fest - go 
for it!  Just be aware of and respect the boundaries (remember Dr Joe 
counsels us that "there is no such thing as an 'unfettered' right" including 
Free Speech). 
 
All I was pointing out is I found the choice of places for organizing the 
protest to be amusing.  No more, no less. 
 
As far as Moscow's (or any community's) Gay populace - they can live 
anywhere they want.  Polygamists too, for that matter. 
 
As Teeriffic would say  "Enough Said" eh? 
 
GS