[Vision2020] The 30 Second Rule (Was Is it Infanticide Vs.Abortion?)
debismith at moscow.com
debismith at moscow.com
Mon Apr 30 17:40:25 PDT 2007
I'm not sure exactly what is wrong with Donovan, but my guess is he will come up with another
convenient diagnosis to explain away his nasty bad and ridiculous behavior, get a meda
adjustment, and stop for a couple of weeks. It is, after all, the consistent pattern he has shown
for several years now. I do know what's wrong with Tony. He's an asshat.
Debi R-S
From: "Sue Hovey" <suehovey at moscow.com>
To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>,
"Tony" <tonytime at clearwire.net>, "Andreas Schou"
<ophite at gmail.com>
Date sent: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 00:06:45 -0700
Copies to: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The 30 Second Rule (Was Is it Infanticide
Vs.Abortion?)
Donovan,
Interesting piece, your little diatribe here. I'm not quite sure
what you intended to prove. Or was it one of those times when you
just couldn't control yourself? It isn't funny, it isn't
enlightening, it isn't even close to coherently written. As I read
this stuff I was thinking better than a 30 second rule for abortion,
why not just allow them retroactively. Then women could pick and
choose. I guess there'd have to be a cut off date of say 40 years or
so. How old are you anyway?
Sue Hovey
----- Original Message -----
From: Donovan Arnold
To: Tony ; Andreas Schou
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The 30 Second Rule (Was Is it Infanticide
Vs.Abortion?)
Perhaps what proponents of late term abortion and partial birth
abortion should come up with is a 30 second rule for abortions.
A so called procedure where a doctor gets 30 seconds after the
unwanted FETUS comes out of the woman's womb to bash its head in
with a rock.
It won't really be killing a baby because the umbilical cord won't
be cut yet so is still part of the woman's body, and most the
fetuses will be dead, injured, deformed, disabled, male, or at least
jaundiced anyway.
People who want rights for women should really push for this god
given right of women not to be taken away for several reasons:
1) There is only 30 seconds or less difference between a partial
birth abortion and the 30 second rule.
2) There is less of a risk of damage to the mother womb's because
other types of abortions take place inside her womb where damage may
occur.
3) It is easier to clean up the fetus parts if you put down
newspapers or plastic garbage bags
4) The procedure will be less complicated and costly meaning it will
be more accessible to women with less economic means.
5) The procedure is so simple it can be made into a
do-it-at-home-kit so dead beat dads, ex-boyfriends, pushers, and
even pimps can take a wake at the unwanted problem.
Women in many cultures across the world over thousands of years have
had this right. It is only because of recent beliefs and the
enforcement of White Christianity in this country that women are
longer able to exercise this god given right to post-birth abortion,
or should we use the term Post Fetal Intrauterine Cranial
Compression to feel better about it.
Best,
Donovan
Tony <tonytime at clearwire.net> wrote:
Andreas, is it your contention then that intact dilation and
extraction is performed on non-viable babies in EVERY case? If so,
why has such information never been divulged before now by the
proponents of this "procedure?" One suspects that there is, once
again, more to the story than those on your side of this debate
would have the public believe.
That critical question aside, why are these handicapped infants
not simply delivered and allowed to expire naturally, if that is
indeed their fate, rather than being unceremoniously dispatched?
Some among us seem altogether too sure that we are qualified to
determine who is "viable" and who is not.
Later,
-Tony
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andreas Schou"
To: "Tony"
Cc:
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Is it Infanticide Vs. Abortion? (was:
CatholicMajority On Supreme Court)
> On 4/24/07, Tony wrote:
>> Andreas, just a quick note to enlighten you as to what partial
birth >> abortion entails. And no, it is not a reference to
virtually all >> abortions >> as you mistakenly claim. The medical
term for this barbaric "procedure" >> is >> intact dilation and
extraction. The squirming infant is pulled feet >> first >> from
its Mommy until only its little head remains inside. Then the >>
"doctor" >> unceremoniously stabs the little guy or gal at the
base of its skull and >> sucks out its brain, at which point the
poor innocent babe's skull >> collapses, facilitating its removal
and disposal. There is no place for >> such murderous behavior in
a civilized society. Those who support the >> continuation of this
practice are moral reprobates who should be shunned. > > There
most certainly is. > > Intact dialiation and extraction is,
ironically, only performed on > nonviable fetuses that were
carried almost to term. In short, it is a > procedure performed on
nonviable fetuses *which the mother did not > wish to abort*.
Generally, it is peformed in cases of anencephaly: a > neural tube
defect where the fetus' braincase fails to form. > > Google image
search it, if you want to. I did. If you do, it will > become very
clear to you why these fetuses are not viable. > > Intact D&E is
not the only procedure suitable to remove an > anencephalic fetus;
however, it is the only abortion procedure that > creates a corpse
suitable for burial. Other procedures, procedures > which remain
legal -- iironically, it is the fact that these > procedures are
medically equivalent that creates the foundation of the > Supreme
Court's radically inconsistent docrtine -- create a >
miscellaneous stew of limbs and organs unsuitable for burial. > >
The law that resulted in the ruling is the purest manifestiation
of > rank cynicism: it's an exploitation of the courts'
misunderstanding of > why the procedure is performed. > > -- ACS >
> the standard procedure peformed in cases of anencephaly and >
exencephaly -- when a fetus' braincase fails to form, > >
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