[Vision2020] NSA Must Earn Respect of Other Academic Institutions

keely emerinemix kjajmix1 at msn.com
Wed Apr 25 19:38:36 PDT 2007


Or here's another possibility, Donovan -- pseudo-scholars of dubious origin and qualification rarely choose to affiliate or associate with scholars of peer review and professional authentication.This is why I don't like it when you sneeringly refer to me as "Reverend Keely."  You see, while I'm aware that you can't stand me, I'd like you to hold me in contempt without suggesting that some peer group of Christian scholars and believers has recognized me.  I'm afraid that I'm just what I proclaim to be -- a middle-aged, moderately educated and entirely unaffiliated amateur student of the Scriptures (not to mention all-round cool mom to two teenagers and unabashed cat lover).  So let's agree on two things, Donovan:  One, that I'm not "Reverend" or revered; and, two, that I'm just trying to defend the Gospel and speak for Biblical righteousness.  It makes me a lot less interesting, but it's a lot more accurate and, I think, still allows you to mock me with impunity.So have at it, but at least recognize that amongst real scholars, NSA is an entirely in-house enterprise worthy of Christian charity, not academic respect.keelyDate: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 18:17:16 -0700From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.comTo: ngier at uidaho.eduCC: vision2020 at moscow.comSubject: Re: [Vision2020] NSA Must Earn Respect of Other Academic	InstitutionsMr. Gier wrote:     "At the 2003 AAR/SBL Moscow conference where I presided as president, 40 percent of the papers were presented by conservative Christian faculty.  Atwood and Wilson 'punished' both his students and faculty by refusing to attend and participate."     Either that or he didn't want to waste the students time by having them give their papers to a non Christian who likes to keep track of what percentage of the participants are Christians and which are not.     Best,     Donovan     Nick Gier <ngier at uidaho.edu> wrote:  Greetings:The only people punishing NSA students are NSA officials who have handicapped them by fighting cultural wars with accrediting
 agencies.  Most of the conservative Christian schools in the region are academic team players, and as a result both their faculty and students win respect and academic advancement.  At the 2003 AAR/SBL Moscow conference where I presided as president, 40 percent of the papers were presented by conservative Christian faculty.  Atwood and Wilson "punished" both his students and faculty by refusing to attend and participate.Furthermore, I don't hate Doug Wilson.  I'm deeply troubled by a student with so much promise losing his way on the Far Religious Right.  It is a truly sad story.Finally, SAT and GRE scores are not everything.  I had only above average GREs, but I saw many of my peers with much higher scores drop out of grad. school as I plodded along with my good German Sitzfleisch.Nick Gier, intellectual mutantAt 03:56 PM 4/25/2007, you wrote:  Nick, Are you trying to convince me and others that a perfect score on a GRE doesn't impress you?  It does me. I don't care if the guy only went to Ronald McDonald's Hamburger Clown School, I think he deserves a chance of at least one semester at a school he pays taxes to support. This is a classic case of bureaucrats that cannot go outside the box, who are unable to comprehend that maybe there is a better way of learning, at least for some people, than a traditional modern college or university with bloated bureaucracies resistant to change or originality.  You mean to tell me there is anything NSA can do to command the respect of Nick Gier? I don't believe that there is. He hates Doug Wilson so passionately he is even willing to punish students that wish to attend his school, and ridicule those that get a perfect GRE score. The University of Idaho should take every student it can, in case it hasn't noticed,
 its population is on a quick downward spiral. I say you ace the GRE, you're in, isn't that why we have the exam, to see who can get in? I mean it is the Graduate Records Exam, THE entrance exam. If it doesn't mean anything, why have one? Just to keep government jobs around? It appears so. Best, Donovan  nickgier at adelphia.net wrote:    Greetings:  I've got at least three columns about Morocco in my head, but I thought I should do this one on NSA before this new issue fades from view.  Nick Gier, intellectual mutant  (Recent genetic studies show that intellectual genius is indeed caused by a genetic mutation.)  NEW ST. ANDREWS COLLEGE MUST EARN  THE RESPECT OF OTHER ACADEMIC INSTITUTIONS  By Nick Gier, Professor Emeritus, University of Idaho  Before 2006, bright Christian students enrolling at Moscow's New St. Andrews College (NSA)
 knew that the school's unaccredited status would put them at a disadvantage for future educational opportunities.   Recent NSA graduates have now learned that they are still at risk, primarily because NSA officials have, once again, chosen spiritual "purity" rather than academic principles.  Even though he scored a perfect score on his Graduate Record Exams, a recent NSA graduate was denied acceptance in a UI graduate program. The UI requires that graduate students have a degree from a regionally accredited institution.   Roy Atwood, NSA's president, told the Lewiston Tribune (2/13/07) that he chose not seek accredited regional accreditation, primarily because these academic agencies are "hostile" to NSA's biblical worldview.  Since November 29, 2005, NSA has been accredited by the Transnational Association of Christian Colleges and Schools (TRACS), which requires that only one third of a school's faculty have doctorate
 degrees. Among the schools accredited by TRACS are Word of Life Bible Institute, Shasta Bible Institute, the infamous Institute for Creation Research, and Jerry Falwell's Liberty University.  NSA recently proposed that it be treated the same as Northwest Christian College (NCC), which is located on the campus of the University of Oregon. There are, however, many differences between these two Christian colleges.   NCC leaders apparently have not found the principles of the Northwest Commission on Colleges and Universities contrary to their institution's religious goals. The UI, NCC, and most of our region's institutions of higher education are accredited by this fine organization.   Nearly all of NCC's faculty have doctoral degrees, while only 27 percent of NSA's faculty have Ph.Ds. Two of NSA's senior fellows, equivalent to full professors, do not have their doctorates, a credential required by all assistant professors at reputable
 institutions.  Contrary to all employee management principles, Douglas Wilson, NSA's founder, has hired his brother, his son, and his son-in-law as NSA faculty members. I'm not sure if NCC President David W. Wilson is a relation, but I'm sure that he has not hired any of his family as NCC faculty.  I'm also quite certain that President Wilson would not have called for the firing of any University of Oregon professors. In late 2003, when two UI history professors dared to criticize Douglas Wilson's booklet "Southern Slavery As It Was," Wilson wrote to Idaho's governor demanding that the two be fired.  I'm absolutely certain that NCC President Wilson would not have condoned an any pranks against the University of Oregon, but on April 1, 1999, NSA faculty and students, with approval from Pastor Wilson, were involved in an outrageous stunt, using the Provost's letterhead to announce a UI sponsored lecture entitled “Topless and Proud� by
 a fictitious feminist scholar.  The 2002 annual meeting of the Pacific Northwest American Academy of Religion (AAR) and the Society for Biblical Literature was held at the University of Oregon. NCC was fully involved in organizing the conference, and NCC faculty presented excellent papers. A good number of NCC students attended the various sessions.  Inspired by NCC's enthusiastic participation, I extended a special invitation, as incoming AAR President, to NSA faculty to submit papers to the same meeting held in Moscow in 2003. When I publicly expressed disappointment that not a single NSA student or faculty attended the conference, Atwood's response was that NSA had "better things to do" than to attend the meeting.  In 1998, Pastor Wilson wrote an article “Why Evangelical Colleges Are Not� in the September issue of Chronicles, the journal of the far right Rockford Institute. The hostility displayed against reputable Christian
 colleges in this article not only shows blatant disrespect for these fine schools, but it manifests shameful disregard for the entire academic enterprise. I now wonder if Wilson includes Northwest Christian College in his condemnation?  Collegiality is an essential intellectual virtue which includes conformity to academic principles and respect for all persons involved in the academic enterprise. My conservative Christian colleagues and I disagree on many theological issues, but we are always collegial with one another, and we always learn from one another at our professional conferences.   If NSA wants to be accepted by other institutions, it must apologize for its past misdemeanors. It must also realize that respect is earned by collegial relations and full participation in academe, not by vicious polemics and juvenile behavior.   Nick Gier taught religion and philosophy at the University of Idaho for 31
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