[Vision2020] Moscow's Leading Liberals Own Stock in Wal-Mart

[J Ford]

Why would you vote "only for a few in Boise"?  Are you not a Moscow 
resident?  Picky point, I know - but *you* made the statement.



J  :]






>   From: Donovan Arnold
>   To: Sue Hovey ; vision2020 at moscow.com
>   Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 11:40 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Moscow's Leading Liberals Own Stock in 
>Wal-Mart
>
>
>   Sue,
>
>   1st Point. I don't have a problem with Wal-Mart. So I don't have a 
>problem with PERSI. I have a problem with people bashing Wal-Mart but 
>taking money from them, regardless of age, they know better.
>
>   2nd Point. If liberals stopped giving money to PERSI, they would stop 
>investing in Wal-Mart. Pretty simple concept. If liberals stopped investing 
>in PERSI for that reason, their handlers would for obvious economic 
>reasons, would stop investing in Wal-Mart. It is called free market 
>economics, and it works better than protests and lobbying.
>
>   3rd Point. I am, for the proper treatment of the elderly, not for some 
>people to have the right to do wrong simply because they reach a certain 
>age, as you seem to be advocating.
>
>   4th Point. I would not advocate for euthanasia as you are stating. That 
>is called suicide, it is a selfish act that goes against everything I 
>believe. We are put here not by own will, and we leave this world not at 
>our own will. However, what we do while we are here, and the actions we 
>take are our own will.
>
>   5th Point. I have worked in a nursing homes, doing things for them 
>nobody else would. So I don't need to prove myself to you or anyone else as 
>to my dedication to their dignity.
>
>   6th Point. I didn't vote for Bush and only for a few in Boise.
>
>   Best,
>
>   Donovan
>
>   Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com> wrote:
>     Donovan,
>
>     1st point:  Many, perhaps most, of those who receive money from PERSI 
>are elderly--certainly I am.
>     2nd point:  I am going to assume your self-touted compassion for the 
>elderly extends only to those who aren't liberals receiving money from 
>PERSI.  Obviously our needs mean little to you.
>     3rd point:  I have 3 sources of income: PERSI, which constitutes about 
>65% of my retirement income; Social Security, which is about 30%, and some 
>funding I receive through my work as an educational consultant.  Yes, I 
>gladly take my money from PERSI, quite a bit of which comes from my 
>contributions over the 30 years I worked as a teacher.
>     4th point:  I appreciate your pointing out PERSI's investments and I 
>will continue to lobby the PERSI investment board to back off its 
>investments which I feel to be an inappropriate use of teachers' retirement 
>funds.
>     5th point:  Now why don't you do something productive for the elderly, 
>such as I.  I would suggest a significant effort on your part to lobby the 
>president or our policy makers from Idaho (you are more likely to have 
>elected them than I.)  Maybe a policy change that would allow the 
>government to negotiate with drug companies for Medicare recipients, or a 
>law which would allow us to die with dignity at a time of our choice, 
>should we be incurably ill. I just bet you have as much pull with those 
>folks as I do with the PERSI Board, so hop to it, chum.
>
>     Sue
>       ----- Original Message -----
>       From: Donovan Arnold
>       To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>       Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 11:39 PM
>       Subject: [Vision2020] Moscow's Leading Liberals Own Stock in 
>Wal-Mart
>
>
>       It is interesting to hear all the liberals in Moscow complain about 
>how horrible Wal-Mart is, yet they gladly take their retirement funds from 
>PERSI.
>
>       PERSI invests in Wal-Mart. As well as Exxon Mobile and Bank of 
>Illegals (AKA Bank of America).
>
>       Look yourself:
>       
>http://www.persi.idaho.gov/html/generalinformation/Board/Monthly_Report/PERSI_2D_Larg_Public_Holds.pdf
>
>       I am curious to see how many of them back out of PERSI since it is 
>profit made from sweatshops.
>
>       Best,
>
>       Donovan
>
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