[Vision2020] Wheaton Story in paper
Mark Solomon
msolomon at moscow.com
Thu Apr 5 13:55:37 PDT 2007
Saundra,
For those of us who are only hearing of this for the first time,
could you elaborate a bit more?
thank you,
m.
At 10:48 AM -0700 4/5/07, Saundra Lund wrote:
>Perhaps one or the other can replace the current Council member who, when
>serving on a commission, thought those in the audience didn't need to hear
>what was being discussed in the public meeting by the commission members and
>who, in fact, was INCREDIBLY RUDE to an elderly man who requested the board
>members speak up so they could be heard.
>
>It was my opinion that had more Moscow citizens been at that meeting -- or
>if videos of those meetings were available or had that meeting been covered
>by the press (assuming we had a real newspaper, which we don't appear to
>have) -- that particular current Council member never would have been
>elected. It was one of the more shameful displays I've ever seen in a
>public meeting :-(((
>
>
>Saundra Lund
>Moscow, ID
>
>The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
>nothing.
>- Edmund Burke
>
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
>On Behalf Of lfalen
>Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 10:04 AM
>To: g. crabtree; Matt Decker; privatejf32 at hotmail.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Wheaton Story in paper
>
>Decker and Crabtree for City Council
>
>Roger
>-----Original message-----
>From: "g. crabtree" jampot at adelphia.net
>Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 05:53:23 -0700
>To: "Matt Decker" mattd2107 at hotmail.com, privatejf32 at hotmail.com,
>vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Wheaton Story in paper
>
>> Matt is very much correct on this one. Our current city council has made
>> nothing but bad decisions ever since it came into power. Our Mayor is more
>
>> interested in surrounding herself with an fawning group of yes men than
>> doing what it takes to make Moscow grow and prosper.
>>
>> I challenge "J. Ford" to tell the rest of us on this list what it might
>have
>> been that would make giving the boot to a community minded volunteer with
>> over 15 years of experience in what was often a thankless job a
>ppropriate.
>> Was it the fact that he would occasionally limit statements before the
>board
>> to a prescribed time limit? Our illustrious mayor does that at every
>council
>> meeting. I fail to see how it becomes an issue worthy of removal in
>> Wheaton's case.
>>
>> While you're at it, how about a few examples of the BOA benefiting a few
>> special interests to the detriment of the rest of the town. Just exactly
>> what segment of the community has been neglected by previous decisions? A
>> few concrete examples as opposed to the usual vague blather would be
>> extremely helpful.
>>
>> Anybody want to bet that the only note of what should be a symphony (to
>hear
>> her tell it) will be sung to the tune of "NSA/CC/Doug Wilson is a rat
>> bastard doo dah, doo dah. Does nothing right, does all things wrong, oh
>the
>> doo dah day?
>>
>> g
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Matt Decker" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>
>> To: <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 11:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Wheaton Story in paper
>>
>>
>> > J,
>> >
>> > I highly doubt the "whole" town wants a man of 15 years to be fired.
>> >
>> > Plaskon and Wheaton being asked to leave, is highly suspicious and
>> > deserves
>> > an answer. As far as I know, or have heard "she" has yet to tell why
>"she"
>> > wanted John to leave, along with Joel.
>> >
>> > Whats next? Lambert or Webber? Anybody that wants to start a
>development?
>> >
>> > The problem is we need a council that is willing to stand by the rules,
>> > enforcing those principles entrusted onto us, but also installing an
> > > agenda
>> > that thrives on a growth rich conservation based city/county. Problems
>> > which
>> > have caused conflict throughout the city for years.
> > >
>> > This council, driven by Chaney, has done nothing for this town. Time for
>a
>> > change.
>> >
>> > Matt
>> >
>> >
>> >>From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>> >>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Wheaton Story in paper
>> >>Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 20:42:36 -0700
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Joel WAS suggested to resign. Same diff, I suppose.
>> >>
>> >>Anyway, for years people have been saying it was time for him to go.
>The
>> >>fact that his decisions are being looked at and in some cases reversed
>or
>> >>canceled, I'd say others within City Hall feel the same way.
>> >>
>> >>Do I like Nancy? Nope - but at least she's trying to do what is best
>for
>> >>the WHOLE town, not just a few who have had their hands in the till for
>> >>far
>> >>too long. Like everything else, time will tell as to whether or not her
>> >>decisions and their decisions worked out for the best or not.
>> >>
>> >>The end.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>J :]
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>From: "Matt Decker" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>
>> >>>To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>> >>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Wheaton Story in paper
>> >>>Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 20:27:06 -0700
>> >>>
>> >>>J,
>> >>>
>> >>>How about Joel Plaskon? Was it his time to go too? I'll bet you'll say
>> >>>yes(oh ya he resigned most likely asked too).
>> >>>
>> >>>J It's time you set the NSA aside, see that these appointed people made
>> >>>decisions based upon what they thought best for moscow, and move the
>F*&^
>> >>>on.
>> >>>
>> >>>Face it J and others, Nancy is doing what she feels is best for the
>Cow,
>> >>>but
>> >>>that best is going to be the down fall of this town.
>> >>>
>> >>>Hey hey ho ho Nancy Chaney has got to go
>> >>>
>> >>>Matt
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> >From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>> >>> >To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> >>> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Wheaton Story in paper
>> >>> >Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 18:00:14 -0700
>> >>> >
>> >>> >Ah, yes....but is that enough to recommend him?! No. Just because
>> >>>someone
>> >>> >serves on a city committee, does not mean he does so fairly, highly,
>or
>> >>> >even
>> >>> >remotely in a good way.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >Sorry, but it was his time to go.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >J :]
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > >From: "Matt Decker" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>
>> >>> > >To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>> >>> > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Wheaton Story in paper
>> >>> > >Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 17:36:06 -0700
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >J,
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >Sounds like to me, another act by our mayor to make Moscow a no
>> >>> > >growth(sorry
>> >>> > >smart growth), no hick liven, no blue collor wearin, we respect all
>> >>>lives
>> >>> > >except ones that go against our agenda town. Agree with Wheaton or
>> >>>not,
>> >>> >but
>> >>> > >he served the town for fifteen years. At least give him that.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >Matt
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > >From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>> >>> > > >To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> >>> > > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Wheaton Story in paper
>> >>> > > >Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 12:32:19 -0700
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > >My, my....now who sounds bitter?!
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > >Seems to me, the Mayor finally listened to the citizens and got
>rid
>> >>>of
>> >>> >a
>> >>> > > >bad
>> >>> > > >egg.
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > >What's your REAL problem with this? After what happened at the
>NSA
>> >>> > > >hearing,
>> >>> > > >you of all people should be happy - now, when Atwood or his other
>> >>> > > >fellow-puppets wish to talk, chances are they will get ALL the
>time
>> >>> >they
>> >>> > > >need to convince the BOA or the City Council just how persecuted
>> >>>they
>> >>> > >are.
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > >J :]
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > >From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>
>> >>> > > > >To: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>, <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> >>> > > > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Wheaton Story in paper
> > >>> > > > >Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 07:10:33 -0700
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > > >Knowing Wheaton, It's not hard to picture him refusing to
>accord
>> >>>Her
> > >>> > > > >majesty, Queen Chaney, short may she reign, the deference she
>> >>>seems
>> >>> >to
>> >>> > > >have
>> >>> > > > >come to expect. So, a little slight of hand with the city
>staff,
>> >>> > > > >a
>> >>> > >quick
>> >>> > > > >word of instruction to her pet monkeys Ament and Stout and
>poof!
>> >>>No
>> >>> > >more
>> >>> > > > >annoying anti-toady. There's no question that Jon ran a no
>> >>>nonsense
>> >>> > > >meeting
>> >>> > > > >and could be mildly abrasive in doing so but he always seemed
>> >>> > > > >very
>> >>> >even
>> >>> > > > >handed in the way he went about it. To give him the sack in
>this
>> >>> >manner
>> >>> > > >is
>> >>> > > > >an insult to his service and a warning to others serving on the
>> >>> >various
>> >>> > > > >boards and commissions, warm up your rubber stamp or Nancy has
>a
>> >>> >little
>> >>> > > > >surprise for you.
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > > >g
>> >>> > > > >----- Original Message -----
>> >>> > > > >From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
>> >>> > > > >To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> >>> > > > >Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 12:55 AM
>> >>> > > > >Subject: [Vision2020] Wheaton Story in paper
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > Comments, anyone?
>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > The Moscow City Council voted to remove Board of Adjustment
>> >>> >Chairman
>> >>> > > >Jon
>> >>> > > > > > Wheaton from his board position Monday night.
>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > "Issues have been reported relating to compliance with legal
>> >>> > > > >requirements
>> >>> > > > > > for the job," said Moscow Mayor Nancy Chaney, who brought
>the
>> >>> >issue
>> >>> > > > > > forward
>> >>> > > > > > as a new agenda item Monday night.
>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > Chaney declined to comment further on reasons for Wheaton's
>> >>> >removal,
>> >>> > > > > > saying
>> >>> > > > > > it is a personnel issue.
>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > "I regret that he has been unwilling to receive my efforts
>to
>> >>> > > > > > communicate,"
>> >>> > > > > > she said. "I suggest that he be removed; I do this with
>> >>>sadness."
>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > Wheaton, who has served on the board of adjustment for the
>> >>> > > > > > past
>> >>>15
>> >>> > > >years
>> >>> > > > > > and
>> >>> > > > > > was reappointed chairman by the board this year, said he
>> >>>refused
>> >>> > >when
>> >>> > > > > > Chaney
>> >>> > > > > > asked him to step down.
>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > "She didn't say why," he said. "The closest she came was
>> >>> > > > > > saying
>> >>> >that
>> >>> > >I
>> >>> > > > > > ruffled somebody's feathers. I thought, 'So they were
>> >>>listening.
>> >>> > > >Good.'
>> >>> > > > >"
>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > Wheaton said he refused to sidestep Chaney or "play her
>game."
>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > "She's got something up her sleeve, but I don't know what
>that
>> >>> >is,"
>> >>> > >he
>> >>> > > > > > said.
>> >>> > > > > > "She wants to be queen, literally, and everybody will bow
>and
>> >>> >beckon
>> >>> > > >to
>> >>> > > > > > her." [DMC: Note - do not cross Nancy Chaney. You are a team
>> >>> >player
>> >>> > >as
>> >>> > > > > > long
>> >>> > > > > > as you play the game her way.]
>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > Moscow City Councilman John Weber voted against Wheaton's
>> >>>removal.
>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > "I don't know that the entire (board of adjustment) panel
>had
>> >>>been
>> >>> > > > >spoken
>> >>> > > > > > to
>> >>> > > > > > about his removal," he said. "I didn't think it was
>something
>> >>>to
>> >>> > > >remove
>> >>> > > > > > someone for."
>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > >
>> >>> > > > > > J :]
>> >>> > > > > >
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