[Vision2020] Wheaton Story in paper
lfalen
lfalen at turbonet.com
Thu Apr 5 10:03:41 PDT 2007
Decker and Crabtree for City Council
Roger
-----Original message-----
From: "g. crabtree" jampot at adelphia.net
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 05:53:23 -0700
To: "Matt Decker" mattd2107 at hotmail.com, privatejf32 at hotmail.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Wheaton Story in paper
> Matt is very much correct on this one. Our current city council has made
> nothing but bad decisions ever since it came into power. Our Mayor is more
> interested in surrounding herself with an fawning group of yes men than
> doing what it takes to make Moscow grow and prosper.
>
> I challenge "J. Ford" to tell the rest of us on this list what it might have
> been that would make giving the boot to a community minded volunteer with
> over 15 years of experience in what was often a thankless job a
ppropriate.
> Was it the fact that he would occasionally limit statements before the board
> to a prescribed time limit? Our illustrious mayor does that at every council
> meeting. I fail to see how it becomes an issue worthy of removal in
> Wheaton's case.
>
> While you're at it, how about a few examples of the BOA benefiting a few
> special interests to the detriment of the rest of the town. Just exactly
> what segment of the community has been neglected by previous decisions? A
> few concrete examples as opposed to the usual vague blather would be
> extremely helpful.
>
> Anybody want to bet that the only note of what should be a symphony (to hear
> her tell it) will be sung to the tune of "NSA/CC/Doug Wilson is a rat
> bastard doo dah, doo dah. Does nothing right, does all things wrong, oh the
> doo dah day?
>
> g
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matt Decker" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>
> To: <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 11:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Wheaton Story in paper
>
>
> > J,
> >
> > I highly doubt the "whole" town wants a man of 15 years to be fired.
> >
> > Plaskon and Wheaton being asked to leave, is highly suspicious and
> > deserves
> > an answer. As far as I know, or have heard "she" has yet to tell why "she"
> > wanted John to leave, along with Joel.
> >
> > Whats next? Lambert or Webber? Anybody that wants to start a development?
> >
> > The problem is we need a council that is willing to stand by the rules,
> > enforcing those principles entrusted onto us, but also installing an
> > agenda
> > that thrives on a growth rich conservation based city/county. Problems
> > which
> > have caused conflict throughout the city for years.
> >
> > This council, driven by Chaney, has done nothing for this town. Time for a
> > change.
> >
> > Matt
> >
> >
> >>From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
> >>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Wheaton Story in paper
> >>Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 20:42:36 -0700
> >>
> >>
> >>Joel WAS suggested to resign. Same diff, I suppose.
> >>
> >>Anyway, for years people have been saying it was time for him to go. The
> >>fact that his decisions are being looked at and in some cases reversed or
> >>canceled, I'd say others within City Hall feel the same way.
> >>
> >>Do I like Nancy? Nope - but at least she's trying to do what is best for
> >>the WHOLE town, not just a few who have had their hands in the till for
> >>far
> >>too long. Like everything else, time will tell as to whether or not her
> >>decisions and their decisions worked out for the best or not.
> >>
> >>The end.
> >>
> >>
> >>J :]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>From: "Matt Decker" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>
> >>>To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
> >>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Wheaton Story in paper
> >>>Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 20:27:06 -0700
> >>>
> >>>J,
> >>>
> >>>How about Joel Plaskon? Was it his time to go too? I'll bet you'll say
> >>>yes(oh ya he resigned most likely asked too).
> >>>
> >>>J It's time you set the NSA aside, see that these appointed people made
> >>>decisions based upon what they thought best for moscow, and move the F*&^
> >>>on.
> >>>
> >>>Face it J and others, Nancy is doing what she feels is best for the Cow,
> >>>but
> >>>that best is going to be the down fall of this town.
> >>>
> >>>Hey hey ho ho Nancy Chaney has got to go
> >>>
> >>>Matt
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> >From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
> >>> >To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> >>> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Wheaton Story in paper
> >>> >Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 18:00:14 -0700
> >>> >
> >>> >Ah, yes....but is that enough to recommend him?! No. Just because
> >>>someone
> >>> >serves on a city committee, does not mean he does so fairly, highly, or
> >>> >even
> >>> >remotely in a good way.
> >>> >
> >>> >Sorry, but it was his time to go.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >J :]
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > >From: "Matt Decker" <mattd2107 at hotmail.com>
> >>> > >To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
> >>> > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Wheaton Story in paper
> >>> > >Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 17:36:06 -0700
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >J,
> >>> > >
> >>> > >Sounds like to me, another act by our mayor to make Moscow a no
> >>> > >growth(sorry
> >>> > >smart growth), no hick liven, no blue collor wearin, we respect all
> >>>lives
> >>> > >except ones that go against our agenda town. Agree with Wheaton or
> >>>not,
> >>> >but
> >>> > >he served the town for fifteen years. At least give him that.
> >>> > >
> >>> > >Matt
> >>> > >
> >>> > > >From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
> >>> > > >To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> >>> > > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Wheaton Story in paper
> >>> > > >Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 12:32:19 -0700
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >My, my....now who sounds bitter?!
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >Seems to me, the Mayor finally listened to the citizens and got rid
> >>>of
> >>> >a
> >>> > > >bad
> >>> > > >egg.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >What's your REAL problem with this? After what happened at the NSA
> >>> > > >hearing,
> >>> > > >you of all people should be happy - now, when Atwood or his other
> >>> > > >fellow-puppets wish to talk, chances are they will get ALL the time
> >>> >they
> >>> > > >need to convince the BOA or the City Council just how persecuted
> >>>they
> >>> > >are.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >J :]
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > >From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at adelphia.net>
> >>> > > > >To: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>, <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >>> > > > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Wheaton Story in paper
> >>> > > > >Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 07:10:33 -0700
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >Knowing Wheaton, It's not hard to picture him refusing to accord
> >>>Her
> >>> > > > >majesty, Queen Chaney, short may she reign, the deference she
> >>>seems
> >>> >to
> >>> > > >have
> >>> > > > >come to expect. So, a little slight of hand with the city staff,
> >>> > > > >a
> >>> > >quick
> >>> > > > >word of instruction to her pet monkeys Ament and Stout and poof!
> >>>No
> >>> > >more
> >>> > > > >annoying anti-toady. There's no question that Jon ran a no
> >>>nonsense
> >>> > > >meeting
> >>> > > > >and could be mildly abrasive in doing so but he always seemed
> >>> > > > >very
> >>> >even
> >>> > > > >handed in the way he went about it. To give him the sack in this
> >>> >manner
> >>> > > >is
> >>> > > > >an insult to his service and a warning to others serving on the
> >>> >various
> >>> > > > >boards and commissions, warm up your rubber stamp or Nancy has a
> >>> >little
> >>> > > > >surprise for you.
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >g
> >>> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> >>> > > > >From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
> >>> > > > >To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >>> > > > >Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 12:55 AM
> >>> > > > >Subject: [Vision2020] Wheaton Story in paper
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > > Comments, anyone?
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > The Moscow City Council voted to remove Board of Adjustment
> >>> >Chairman
> >>> > > >Jon
> >>> > > > > > Wheaton from his board position Monday night.
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > "Issues have been reported relating to compliance with legal
> >>> > > > >requirements
> >>> > > > > > for the job," said Moscow Mayor Nancy Chaney, who brought the
> >>> >issue
> >>> > > > > > forward
> >>> > > > > > as a new agenda item Monday night.
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > Chaney declined to comment further on reasons for Wheaton's
> >>> >removal,
> >>> > > > > > saying
> >>> > > > > > it is a personnel issue.
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > "I regret that he has been unwilling to receive my efforts to
> >>> > > > > > communicate,"
> >>> > > > > > she said. "I suggest that he be removed; I do this with
> >>>sadness."
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > Wheaton, who has served on the board of adjustment for the
> >>> > > > > > past
> >>>15
> >>> > > >years
> >>> > > > > > and
> >>> > > > > > was reappointed chairman by the board this year, said he
> >>>refused
> >>> > >when
> >>> > > > > > Chaney
> >>> > > > > > asked him to step down.
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > "She didn't say why," he said. "The closest she came was
> >>> > > > > > saying
> >>> >that
> >>> > >I
> >>> > > > > > ruffled somebody's feathers. I thought, 'So they were
> >>>listening.
> >>> > > >Good.'
> >>> > > > >"
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > Wheaton said he refused to sidestep Chaney or "play her game."
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > "She's got something up her sleeve, but I don't know what that
> >>> >is,"
> >>> > >he
> >>> > > > > > said.
> >>> > > > > > "She wants to be queen, literally, and everybody will bow and
> >>> >beckon
> >>> > > >to
> >>> > > > > > her." [DMC: Note - do not cross Nancy Chaney. You are a team
> >>> >player
> >>> > >as
> >>> > > > > > long
> >>> > > > > > as you play the game her way.]
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > Moscow City Councilman John Weber voted against Wheaton's
> >>>removal.
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > "I don't know that the entire (board of adjustment) panel had
> >>>been
> >>> > > > >spoken
> >>> > > > > > to
> >>> > > > > > about his removal," he said. "I didn't think it was something
> >>>to
> >>> > > >remove
> >>> > > > > > someone for."
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> > > > > > J :]
> >>> > > > > >
> >>> > > > > >
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